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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6105179" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>That's basically what I'm proposing, 'though I want to be clear I don't want the Master to have to spend any actions for a minion to make a Subjugation check.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That sounds a bit over-optimistic, but let's see what we can do.</p><p></p><p><strong>Subjugate Undead (Su):</strong> A bone tyrant can subjugate vast numbers of undead. This ability allows the bone tyrant to rebuke, command, dispel or bolster undead as if it were an 11th level evil cleric, with the following additional rules:</p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A bone tyrant can use this power an unlimited number of times a day. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A bone tyrant master and all its minions use the same cleric level for their Subjugate Undead checks. If the bone tyrant master gains levels in a class with the rebuke undead ability, those levels stack with the effective cleric level of all the bone tyrants. Add the Hit Dice limit of undead it can command using rebuke undead to the Hit Dice limit of its Subjugate Undead ability (see below). </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A bone tyrant can command any number of undead whose Hit Dice are less than half their effective cleric level, provided the total Hit Dice of said undead does not exceed the effective cleric level multiplied by 6 for the master plus 3 for each minion. This Hit Dice limit is a pool shared between the master and all its minions, all of whom can command the subjugated undead. The bone tyrant master's orders take priority over its minions. To create a clear chain-of-command, a master often appoints "commanding officers" by ordering subjugated undead to only accept commands from a particular bone tyrant minion.<br /> A full court of bone tyrants with 1 master and 6 minions can thus Subjugate 24 HD of undead per level; for a total of 264 HD with an effective cleric level of 11. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The bone tyrant master (but not the minions) can also command a single undead whose Hit Dice do not exceed its own. This undead's Hit Dice still count towards the Hit Dice total the bone tyrants can subjugate. </li> </ul><p></p><p>I'd be OK using the above for the Minions as well as the master, but if you prefer a trimmed down version we could go for.</p><p></p><p><strong>Subjugate Undead (Su):</strong> A bone tyrant minion can rebuke, command, dispel or bolster undead as if it were an evil undead. It uses its master's effective cleric level to make Subjugate Undead checks, not its own, and the Hit Dice limit of undead it Subjugates are taken from a pool shared by the master and all its minions. See the bone tyrant master for full details.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6105179, member: 57383"] That's basically what I'm proposing, 'though I want to be clear I don't want the Master to have to spend any actions for a minion to make a Subjugation check. That sounds a bit over-optimistic, but let's see what we can do. [B]Subjugate Undead (Su):[/B] A bone tyrant can subjugate vast numbers of undead. This ability allows the bone tyrant to rebuke, command, dispel or bolster undead as if it were an 11th level evil cleric, with the following additional rules: [LIST] [*]A bone tyrant can use this power an unlimited number of times a day. [*]A bone tyrant master and all its minions use the same cleric level for their Subjugate Undead checks. If the bone tyrant master gains levels in a class with the rebuke undead ability, those levels stack with the effective cleric level of all the bone tyrants. Add the Hit Dice limit of undead it can command using rebuke undead to the Hit Dice limit of its Subjugate Undead ability (see below). [*]A bone tyrant can command any number of undead whose Hit Dice are less than half their effective cleric level, provided the total Hit Dice of said undead does not exceed the effective cleric level multiplied by 6 for the master plus 3 for each minion. This Hit Dice limit is a pool shared between the master and all its minions, all of whom can command the subjugated undead. The bone tyrant master's orders take priority over its minions. To create a clear chain-of-command, a master often appoints "commanding officers" by ordering subjugated undead to only accept commands from a particular bone tyrant minion. A full court of bone tyrants with 1 master and 6 minions can thus Subjugate 24 HD of undead per level; for a total of 264 HD with an effective cleric level of 11. [*]The bone tyrant master (but not the minions) can also command a single undead whose Hit Dice do not exceed its own. This undead's Hit Dice still count towards the Hit Dice total the bone tyrants can subjugate. [/LIST] I'd be OK using the above for the Minions as well as the master, but if you prefer a trimmed down version we could go for. [B]Subjugate Undead (Su):[/B] A bone tyrant minion can rebuke, command, dispel or bolster undead as if it were an evil undead. It uses its master's effective cleric level to make Subjugate Undead checks, not its own, and the Hit Dice limit of undead it Subjugates are taken from a pool shared by the master and all its minions. See the bone tyrant master for full details. [/QUOTE]
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