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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8467912" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>This <strong><a href="https://www.enworld.org/attachments/solifugid2-png.147284/" target="_blank">new version</a></strong> of the Giant Solifugid ought to have "+5 to hit" now, since it's Strength bonus has gone up by +1.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I'll comment further on the Large and Huge versions in a later post. [ENDEDIT]</p><p></p><p>You should probably modify the names of the smaller versions, maybe Giant Solifugid, Medium for the "Huge Solifugid" and Giant Solifugid, Lesser for the "Large Solifugid"?</p><p></p><p>Later editions were sensible enough to have the size in the name match the size of the monster, as illustrated by the Medium-Sized AD&D Huge Scorpion becoming a "<strong><a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/monstrousScorpion.htm" target="_blank">Medium Monstrous Scorpion</a></strong>" in 3E and a "<strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/giant-scorpion-medium/" target="_blank">Giant Scorpion, Medium</a></strong>" in 5E.</p><p></p><p>*AD&D also had a Large Scorpion - which obviously was Small sized! - and its Giant Scorpion was Medium sized, despite its original appearance in the 1E <em>Monster Manual</em> showing a scorpion at least 10 feet from the tip of its claws to the base of its tail, I'd guess it's be 15+ feet long with its tail stretched straight behind it. Making it Large would have better fitted its 5+5 Hit Dice and 1-10 claw damage, since that's more than the AD&D Giant Spider's 4+4 Hit Dice and the AD&D Giant Crab's 2-8 claw damage, both of which arthropods are Large size.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Giant Spiders, in 1E the standard versions of each "Size Name" were different types of spiders - Large Spiders were basically oversized tarantulas as big as plates, Huge Spiders were wolf spiders as big as a man, and Giant Spiders were web-spinners like black widows or orb-weavers. That's why 5E has a Tiny sized <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-spider/" target="_blank">Spider</a></strong>, a Medium sized <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-wolf-spider-giant/" target="_blank">Giant Wolf Spider</a></strong> and a Large sized <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-spider-giant/" target="_blank">Giant Spider</a></strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Scorpions gained Hit Dice though - the <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-scorpion-giant/" target="_blank">Giant Scorpion</a></strong> went from 5d8+5 in AD&D to 7d10+14 in 5E. The <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/giant-scorpion-medium/" target="_blank">Medium Giant Scorpion</a></strong> (which I should point out is not from a WotC product but a third-party publication) has 5d8+5 just like the AD&D Giant Scorpion, but is equivalent to the old Huge Scorpion.</p><p></p><p>Come to think of it, how does your <strong><a href="https://www.enworld.org/attachments/solifugid2-png.147284/" target="_blank">revision</a></strong> compare to a 5E Giant Scorpion as per the <em>Monstrous Manual</em>?</p><p></p><p>Let's see…</p><p></p><p>Roughly the same Hit Points.</p><p></p><p>Armor Class is a point higher.</p><p></p><p>Str, Dex and Con are all higher - the Dex in particular seems excessive as its +3 bonus is equal to a Spider.</p><p></p><p>The "to hit" is the same but the Average Damage is noticeably less than a Giant Scorpion - 20.5 with its claws and sting plus either 11 or 22 poison with its sting's venom, while the Giant Solifugid has either 11 (two forelegs) or 18.5 (a foreleg plus a bite).</p><p></p><p>So, assuming the target isn't immune or resistant to poison, that's a potential damage of 31.5 or 42.5 versus 18.5, more than enough I have no objection to the Scorpion being a Challenge Rating higher.</p><p></p><p>Hmm, perhaps give it the same AC 15 and Con 15 (+2) as a 5E Giant Scorpion and lower the Dexterity to 15 (+2) or 13 (+1)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8467912, member: 57383"] This [B][URL='https://www.enworld.org/attachments/solifugid2-png.147284/']new version[/URL][/B] of the Giant Solifugid ought to have "+5 to hit" now, since it's Strength bonus has gone up by +1. EDIT: I'll comment further on the Large and Huge versions in a later post. [ENDEDIT] You should probably modify the names of the smaller versions, maybe Giant Solifugid, Medium for the "Huge Solifugid" and Giant Solifugid, Lesser for the "Large Solifugid"? Later editions were sensible enough to have the size in the name match the size of the monster, as illustrated by the Medium-Sized AD&D Huge Scorpion becoming a "[B][URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/monstrousScorpion.htm']Medium Monstrous Scorpion[/URL][/B]" in 3E and a "[B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/giant-scorpion-medium/']Giant Scorpion, Medium[/URL][/B]" in 5E. *AD&D also had a Large Scorpion - which obviously was Small sized! - and its Giant Scorpion was Medium sized, despite its original appearance in the 1E [I]Monster Manual[/I] showing a scorpion at least 10 feet from the tip of its claws to the base of its tail, I'd guess it's be 15+ feet long with its tail stretched straight behind it. Making it Large would have better fitted its 5+5 Hit Dice and 1-10 claw damage, since that's more than the AD&D Giant Spider's 4+4 Hit Dice and the AD&D Giant Crab's 2-8 claw damage, both of which arthropods are Large size. In the case of Giant Spiders, in 1E the standard versions of each "Size Name" were different types of spiders - Large Spiders were basically oversized tarantulas as big as plates, Huge Spiders were wolf spiders as big as a man, and Giant Spiders were web-spinners like black widows or orb-weavers. That's why 5E has a Tiny sized [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-spider/']Spider[/URL][/B], a Medium sized [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-wolf-spider-giant/']Giant Wolf Spider[/URL][/B] and a Large sized [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-spider-giant/']Giant Spider[/URL][/B]. The Scorpions gained Hit Dice though - the [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-scorpion-giant/']Giant Scorpion[/URL][/B] went from 5d8+5 in AD&D to 7d10+14 in 5E. The [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/giant-scorpion-medium/']Medium Giant Scorpion[/URL][/B] (which I should point out is not from a WotC product but a third-party publication) has 5d8+5 just like the AD&D Giant Scorpion, but is equivalent to the old Huge Scorpion. Come to think of it, how does your [B][URL='https://www.enworld.org/attachments/solifugid2-png.147284/']revision[/URL][/B] compare to a 5E Giant Scorpion as per the [I]Monstrous Manual[/I]? Let's see… Roughly the same Hit Points. Armor Class is a point higher. Str, Dex and Con are all higher - the Dex in particular seems excessive as its +3 bonus is equal to a Spider. The "to hit" is the same but the Average Damage is noticeably less than a Giant Scorpion - 20.5 with its claws and sting plus either 11 or 22 poison with its sting's venom, while the Giant Solifugid has either 11 (two forelegs) or 18.5 (a foreleg plus a bite). So, assuming the target isn't immune or resistant to poison, that's a potential damage of 31.5 or 42.5 versus 18.5, more than enough I have no objection to the Scorpion being a Challenge Rating higher. Hmm, perhaps give it the same AC 15 and Con 15 (+2) as a 5E Giant Scorpion and lower the Dexterity to 15 (+2) or 13 (+1)? [/QUOTE]
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