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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8468034" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Further on that, I've rummaged around the internet and some of the more reliable looking sights (such as <a href="https://phc.amedd.army.mil/PHC%20Resource%20Library/CamelSpiderSolifugids_FS_18_026_0317.pdf" target="_blank"><strong>APHC</strong></a>, <a href="https://arachnipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Solifugae" target="_blank"><strong>Arachnipedia Fandom</strong></a> and <a href="https://thesmallermajority.com/2012/11/09/solifugids-arachnid-teddybears-with-big-teeth/" target="_blank"><strong>The Smaller Majority</strong></a>) do indicate they can very fast reflexes and some of them can keep up with a human who isn't running away from them at full tilt.</p><p></p><p>There are claims of an estimated top speeds of 16 kph, but that seems highly unlikely. For example, the House Centipede <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutigera_coleoptrata" target="_blank"><em>Scutigera coleoptrata</em></a> is considered one of the fastest arthropods in the world and is said to do about 40 cm per second, which is just under 1.5 kph.</p><p></p><p>Still, they clearly have an extremely fast ground speed for an arthropod, so if you wanted to give them a higher speed I would not object.</p><p></p><p>Say Speed 50 ft.?</p><p></p><p>That's the speed of a Behir, Centaur, Triceratops, Tyrannosaurus rex, Hell Hound, Invisible Stalker, Purple Worm* plus the Camel, Elk, Panther**, Winter Wolf and Worg in the 5E <em>Monster Manual</em>.</p><p> *That's oddly fast, considering most edition's Purple Worms moved at half the speed of an unencumbered human.</p><p> **Meaning a leopard is faster than a 5E Wolf (40 ft.) - which is actually true, over short distances. Wolves are endurance hunters, if a cat can't escape with a burst of speed, a dog will outlast it.</p><p></p><p>I'd also accept Speed 60 ft., the rate at which the 5E <em>Monster Manual's</em> Allosaurus, Giant Elk, Nightmare and Horses (Riding or War), but that might require a bit of persuasion.</p><p></p><p>Note that this wouldn't match the original stats. The AD&D Solifugids have an unimpressive human-level of 9" or 12" (AD&D Humans have 12" base, 9" medium load, 6" heavy), but the Rhagodessa is faster than a human (Move 15"), and both are faster than humans in 3E (40 ft. vs human's 30 ft.).</p><p></p><p>However, if a Purple Worm can go from 20 ft. in 3E (encumbered humanoid speed) through Speed 6 in 4E (unencumbered average humanoid) to 50 ft. in 5E (as fast as a worg!), why not have the Solifugids be as faster than earlier editions suggest?</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, an AD&D Giant Scorpion is Speed 15" just like a Rhagodessa, but for some reason Scorpions were made particularly fast in 3E. Monstrous Scorpions of size Large or bigger are speed 50 ft., with the epic Devastation Scorpion having Speed 60 ft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8468034, member: 57383"] Further on that, I've rummaged around the internet and some of the more reliable looking sights (such as [URL='https://phc.amedd.army.mil/PHC%20Resource%20Library/CamelSpiderSolifugids_FS_18_026_0317.pdf'][B]APHC[/B][/URL], [URL='https://arachnipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Solifugae'][B]Arachnipedia Fandom[/B][/URL] and [URL='https://thesmallermajority.com/2012/11/09/solifugids-arachnid-teddybears-with-big-teeth/'][B]The Smaller Majority[/B][/URL]) do indicate they can very fast reflexes and some of them can keep up with a human who isn't running away from them at full tilt. There are claims of an estimated top speeds of 16 kph, but that seems highly unlikely. For example, the House Centipede [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutigera_coleoptrata'][I]Scutigera coleoptrata[/I][/URL] is considered one of the fastest arthropods in the world and is said to do about 40 cm per second, which is just under 1.5 kph. Still, they clearly have an extremely fast ground speed for an arthropod, so if you wanted to give them a higher speed I would not object. Say Speed 50 ft.? That's the speed of a Behir, Centaur, Triceratops, Tyrannosaurus rex, Hell Hound, Invisible Stalker, Purple Worm* plus the Camel, Elk, Panther**, Winter Wolf and Worg in the 5E [I]Monster Manual[/I]. *That's oddly fast, considering most edition's Purple Worms moved at half the speed of an unencumbered human. **Meaning a leopard is faster than a 5E Wolf (40 ft.) - which is actually true, over short distances. Wolves are endurance hunters, if a cat can't escape with a burst of speed, a dog will outlast it. I'd also accept Speed 60 ft., the rate at which the 5E [I]Monster Manual's[/I] Allosaurus, Giant Elk, Nightmare and Horses (Riding or War), but that might require a bit of persuasion. Note that this wouldn't match the original stats. The AD&D Solifugids have an unimpressive human-level of 9" or 12" (AD&D Humans have 12" base, 9" medium load, 6" heavy), but the Rhagodessa is faster than a human (Move 15"), and both are faster than humans in 3E (40 ft. vs human's 30 ft.). However, if a Purple Worm can go from 20 ft. in 3E (encumbered humanoid speed) through Speed 6 in 4E (unencumbered average humanoid) to 50 ft. in 5E (as fast as a worg!), why not have the Solifugids be as faster than earlier editions suggest? Incidentally, an AD&D Giant Scorpion is Speed 15" just like a Rhagodessa, but for some reason Scorpions were made particularly fast in 3E. Monstrous Scorpions of size Large or bigger are speed 50 ft., with the epic Devastation Scorpion having Speed 60 ft. [/QUOTE]
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