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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8494247" data-attributes="member: 57383">In 3E <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/troglodyte.htm" target="_blank">Troglodytes</a> advance by character class, but unlike most humanoid monsters their Monster Manual organization does not list levels, only that they pal around with monitor lizards, their Org line is:Organization: Clutch (2-5), squad (6-11 plus 1-2 monitor lizards), or band (20-80 plus 20% noncombatants plus 3-13 monitor lizards)The flavour text does say they are &quot;ruled by the largest and fiercest among them, with subchieftains who have distinguished themselves in battle&quot; but offers no classes or levels, although it does mention they revere Laogzed and their advancement gives their Favoured Class as cleric.One would think they'd have something more like a <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/bugbear.htm" target="_blank">Bugbear's</a> &quot;Solitary, gang (2-4), or band (11-20 plus 150% noncombatants plus 2 2nd-level sergeants and 1 leader of 2nd-5th level)&quot; instead, with mention of subchiefs, chieftains and maybe a shaman of Laogzed.There are class-leveled 3E trogs scattered about various WotC products, but they're either boring (an ordinary troglodyte with a level of barbarian or a couple of levels of cleric or adept) or weird (such as the illithid-grafted troglodytes in Dungeon #122's &quot;Last Resting Place&quot; or the 10th-level troglodyte ghast fighters in the Dungeon #150's &quot;Prince of Demons&quot;).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8494247, member: 57383"] In 3E [B][URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/troglodyte.htm']Troglodytes[/URL][/B] advance by character class, but unlike most humanoid monsters their [I]Monster Manual[/I] organization does not list levels, only that they pal around with monitor lizards, their Org line is: [B]Organization:[/B] Clutch (2-5), squad (6-11 plus 1-2 monitor lizards), or band (20-80 plus 20% noncombatants plus 3-13 monitor lizards) The flavour text does say they are "ruled by the largest and fiercest among them, with subchieftains who have distinguished themselves in battle" but offers no classes or levels, although it does mention they revere Laogzed and their advancement gives their Favoured Class as cleric. One would think they'd have something more like a [B][URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/bugbear.htm']Bugbear's[/URL][/B] "Solitary, gang (2-4), or band (11-20 plus 150% noncombatants plus 2 2nd-level sergeants and 1 leader of 2nd-5th level)" instead, with mention of subchiefs, chieftains and maybe a shaman of Laogzed. There are class-leveled 3E trogs scattered about various WotC products, but they're either boring (an ordinary troglodyte with a level of barbarian or a couple of levels of cleric or adept) or weird (such as the illithid-grafted troglodytes in [I]Dungeon #122's[/I] "Last Resting Place" or the 10th-level troglodyte ghast fighters in the [I]Dungeon #150's[/I] "Prince of Demons"). [/QUOTE]

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