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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5156276" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I would prefer them to start out with the same HD as a Tomb Warden.</p><p></p><p>How about "A Tombheart has Hit Dice equal to the highest Hit Dice Tomb Warden it is linked to, plus 1 HD for every 5 Hit dice of the Tomb Wardens it is linked to. e.g. the Tombheart of four 11-HD Tomb Wardens has a base of 11 HD, plus 8 HD (44 HD divided by 5), or 19 Hit Dice."</p><p></p><p>The Tombheart size could go Medium 11-20 HD, Large 21-40 HD, Huge 41-80 HD <em>etc</em>.</p><p></p><p>That would translate to:</p><p></p><p>One 11 HD Warden (11HD/5=2HD) -> 13 HD Medium Tombheart</p><p>Two 11 HD Wardens (22HD/5=4HD) -> 15 HD Medium Tombheart</p><p>Three 11 HD Wardens (33HD/5=6HD) -> 17 HD Medium Tombheart</p><p>Four 11 HD Wardens (44HD/5=8HD) -> 19 HD Medium Tombheart</p><p>Five 11 HD Wardens (55HD/5=11HD) -> 22 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Six 11 HD Wardens (66HD/5=13HD) -> 24 HD Large Tombheart</p><p> Seven 11 HD Wardens (77HD/5=15HD) -> 26 HD Large Tombheart</p><p> Eight 11 HD Wardens (88HD/5=17HD) -> 28 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Nine 11 HD Wardens (99HD/5=19HD) -> 30 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Ten 11 HD Wardens (110HD/5=22HD) -> 33 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Eleven 11 HD Wardens (121HD/5=24HD) -> 35 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Twelve 11 HD Wardens (132HD/5=26HD) -> 37 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Thirteen 11 HD Wardens (143/5=28HD) -> 39 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Fourteen 11 HD Wardens (154HD/5=30HD) -> 41 HD Huge Tombheart</p><p>...</p><p>Thirty Two 11 HD Wardens (352HD/5=70HD) -> 81 HD Gargantuan Tombheart</p><p></p><p>While for Large Tomb Wardens...</p><p></p><p>One 16 HD Warden (16HD/5=3HD) -> 19 HD Medium Tombheart</p><p>Two 16 HD Wardens (32HD/5=6HD) -> 22 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Three 16 HD Wardens (48HD/5=9HD) -> 25 HD Large Tombheart</p><p> Four 16 HD Wardens (64HD/5=12HD) -> 28 HD Large Tombheart</p><p> Five 16 HD Wardens (80HD/5=16HD) -> 32 HD Large Tombheart</p><p> Six 16 HD Wardens (96HD/5=19HD) -> 35 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Seven 16 HD Wardens (112HD/5=22HD) -> 38 HD Large Tombheart</p><p>Eight 16 HD Wardens (128HD/5=25HD) -> 41 HD Huge Tombheart</p><p>Nine 16 HD Wardens (144HD/5=28HD) -> 44 HD Huge Tombheart</p><p> Ten 16 HD Wardens (160HD/5=32HD) -> 48 HD Huge Tombheart</p><p>...</p><p>Twenty One 16 HD Wardens (336HD/5=67HD) -> 83 HD Gargantuan Gargantuan Tombheart</p><p></p><p>Hmm...</p><p></p><p>No, I think we should drop this approach and simplify the whole thing.</p><p></p><p>How about the following.</p><p></p><p>A Tombheart must be linked to at least two Tomb Wardens, which must all have the same Hit Dice. The Tombheart has a size and Hit Dice according to the following table:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'No. of Tomb'''''Tombheart</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">''Wardens'''''Size''''''Hit Dice</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'''''2'''''Warden -1''As Warden</span> * 1</p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">''''3-4''''As Warden''As Warden</span> * 1.5</p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">''''5-6''''As Warden''As Warden * 2</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">''''7-8''''Warden +1''As Warden * 2.5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">''''9-12'''Warden +1''As Warden * 3</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'''13-16'''Warden +2''As Warden * 3.5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'''17-24'''Warden +2''As Warden * 4</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'''25-32'''Warden +3''As Warden * 4.5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">'''33-40'''Warden +3''As Warden * 5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p>Example: A wall containing Seven Large 16 HD Tomb Wardens will have a Tombheart one size larger with 2.5 times as many Hit Dice, for a Huge 40 HD Tombheart.</p><p></p><p>That way we don't need to worry about calculations, just present a table that gives reasonable Hit Dice values.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5156276, member: 57383"] I would prefer them to start out with the same HD as a Tomb Warden. How about "A Tombheart has Hit Dice equal to the highest Hit Dice Tomb Warden it is linked to, plus 1 HD for every 5 Hit dice of the Tomb Wardens it is linked to. e.g. the Tombheart of four 11-HD Tomb Wardens has a base of 11 HD, plus 8 HD (44 HD divided by 5), or 19 Hit Dice." The Tombheart size could go Medium 11-20 HD, Large 21-40 HD, Huge 41-80 HD [I]etc[/I]. That would translate to: One 11 HD Warden (11HD/5=2HD) -> 13 HD Medium Tombheart Two 11 HD Wardens (22HD/5=4HD) -> 15 HD Medium Tombheart Three 11 HD Wardens (33HD/5=6HD) -> 17 HD Medium Tombheart Four 11 HD Wardens (44HD/5=8HD) -> 19 HD Medium Tombheart Five 11 HD Wardens (55HD/5=11HD) -> 22 HD Large Tombheart Six 11 HD Wardens (66HD/5=13HD) -> 24 HD Large Tombheart Seven 11 HD Wardens (77HD/5=15HD) -> 26 HD Large Tombheart Eight 11 HD Wardens (88HD/5=17HD) -> 28 HD Large Tombheart Nine 11 HD Wardens (99HD/5=19HD) -> 30 HD Large Tombheart Ten 11 HD Wardens (110HD/5=22HD) -> 33 HD Large Tombheart Eleven 11 HD Wardens (121HD/5=24HD) -> 35 HD Large Tombheart Twelve 11 HD Wardens (132HD/5=26HD) -> 37 HD Large Tombheart Thirteen 11 HD Wardens (143/5=28HD) -> 39 HD Large Tombheart Fourteen 11 HD Wardens (154HD/5=30HD) -> 41 HD Huge Tombheart ... Thirty Two 11 HD Wardens (352HD/5=70HD) -> 81 HD Gargantuan Tombheart While for Large Tomb Wardens... One 16 HD Warden (16HD/5=3HD) -> 19 HD Medium Tombheart Two 16 HD Wardens (32HD/5=6HD) -> 22 HD Large Tombheart Three 16 HD Wardens (48HD/5=9HD) -> 25 HD Large Tombheart Four 16 HD Wardens (64HD/5=12HD) -> 28 HD Large Tombheart Five 16 HD Wardens (80HD/5=16HD) -> 32 HD Large Tombheart Six 16 HD Wardens (96HD/5=19HD) -> 35 HD Large Tombheart Seven 16 HD Wardens (112HD/5=22HD) -> 38 HD Large Tombheart Eight 16 HD Wardens (128HD/5=25HD) -> 41 HD Huge Tombheart Nine 16 HD Wardens (144HD/5=28HD) -> 44 HD Huge Tombheart Ten 16 HD Wardens (160HD/5=32HD) -> 48 HD Huge Tombheart ... Twenty One 16 HD Wardens (336HD/5=67HD) -> 83 HD Gargantuan Gargantuan Tombheart Hmm... No, I think we should drop this approach and simplify the whole thing. How about the following. A Tombheart must be linked to at least two Tomb Wardens, which must all have the same Hit Dice. The Tombheart has a size and Hit Dice according to the following table: [FONT=Courier New]'No. of Tomb'''''Tombheart ''Wardens'''''Size''''''Hit Dice [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]'''''2'''''Warden -1''As Warden[/FONT] * 1 [FONT=Courier New]''''3-4''''As Warden''As Warden[/FONT] * 1.5 [FONT=Courier New]''''5-6''''As Warden''As Warden * 2[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]''''7-8''''Warden +1''As Warden * 2.5 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]''''9-12'''Warden +1''As Warden * 3 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]'''13-16'''Warden +2''As Warden * 3.5 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]'''17-24'''Warden +2''As Warden * 4 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]'''25-32'''Warden +3''As Warden * 4.5 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]'''33-40'''Warden +3''As Warden * 5 [/FONT] Example: A wall containing Seven Large 16 HD Tomb Wardens will have a Tombheart one size larger with 2.5 times as many Hit Dice, for a Huge 40 HD Tombheart. That way we don't need to worry about calculations, just present a table that gives reasonable Hit Dice values. [/QUOTE]
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