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<blockquote data-quote="Shade" data-source="post: 1468500" data-attributes="member: 287">My math sure was fuzzy.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; I decided to keep it with Run, since it will only attack in emergencies.&nbsp; So that should give it an attack bonus of +1, right?&nbsp; (+3 BAB, +2 size, -4 Str).&nbsp;&nbsp;This is a really tough critter to apply CR.&nbsp;&nbsp; It does have 7 HD and great AC, but can't really hurt anyone much.&nbsp;&nbsp; CR 2 will probably work.&nbsp;&nbsp;I liked the idea of necromancers stealing the eyes from beholders, invoking their wrath, so I decided to allow anyone who could cast create undead the ability to create 'em.&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking at that spell, caster level 12 seems to be the cutoff for anything better than a ghoul.&nbsp;&nbsp; Since these critters have more HD and empathic link, I'd say they are more valuable than a ghoul.&nbsp;Look it over and see if everything looks OK, and if so, we'll move on to the next one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shade, post: 1468500, member: 287"] My math sure was fuzzy. :heh: I decided to keep it with Run, since it will only attack in emergencies. So that should give it an attack bonus of +1, right? (+3 BAB, +2 size, -4 Str). This is a really tough critter to apply CR. It does have 7 HD and great AC, but can't really hurt anyone much. CR 2 will probably work. I liked the idea of necromancers stealing the eyes from beholders, invoking their wrath, so I decided to allow anyone who could cast [i]create undead[/i] the ability to create 'em. Looking at that spell, caster level 12 seems to be the cutoff for anything better than a ghoul. Since these critters have more HD and empathic link, I'd say they are more valuable than a ghoul. Look it over and see if everything looks OK, and if so, we'll move on to the next one. [/QUOTE]

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