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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7792933" data-attributes="member: 57383">Updating <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?p=7549513#post7549513" target="_blank">Trollhound Working Draft</a>.They're pretty muscular and hefty according to the original artwork by Mark A Nelson - which you can see in a gallery <a href="https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1466775" target="_blank">here</a>.That matches the description that they "bulge with thick muscles and tendons" and they certainly aren't as lean as an AD&D Troll is.However a weight of 400-600 pounds doesn't match terrible well with their listed shoulder height if they're heavily built.If we assume they have a build roughly similar to a Rottweiler. According to the FCI standard, a male Rottweiler should stand 61-69 cm at the "withers" (aka shoulder) and weigh 60-70 kg. Let's average that to 65 cm and 65 kg. Scaling that up to a 120-180 cm for a 4 to 6 foot "Rottweiler" gives us a weight range of 900 to 3000 pounds.That seems too high.Let's try a leaner dog breed - say an Irish Wolfhound. The American Kennel Club minimum for those is 30/32" and 105/120 pounds for male/female but they can get significantly bigger, with males averaging 34-35" and 140-180 pounds, so large wolfhounds 36" at the shoulder and 180 pounds <a href="http://www.101dogbreeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Irish-Wolfhound-Size.jpg" target="_blank">are unheard of</a>.If we use 34" and 160 pounds as a base, that scales up to 450 pounds for a 48" dog. Trollhounds are bit heftier, so let's tweak that up to 500 pounds. It seems reasonable to have them on the cusp of the Medium/Large weight division.So how about:A typical trollhound stands about 4 feet tall at the shoulder and weighs around 500 pounds. Pack leaders can reach 6 feet at the shoulder and weigh up to 3000 pounds.</blockquote>

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