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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8738408" data-attributes="member: 57383">Okay then, let's rough out some basics.To begin with, it seems prudent to refer to the 3E version of the bag of devouring, since that serves as the "feeding orifice" of an Ihagnim:That seems like it'd serve as the basis for some kind of Devouring special attack. The bag of devouring uses grapple mechanics to determine whether it's devouring works, so I'm tempted to tweak the monster stats so the starting version has the same +8 grapple modifier as the bag.However, it'll likely be an Ooze or an Aberration, which both have BAB equal to ¾ total Hit Dice, which is +6 for 8 HD. Add +4 for its Large size makes +10, so it'll only have grapple +8 if its Strength modifier were –2.Strength 6 or 7 seems rather feeble, plus it'd give it a pretty lousy melee attack. Although I guess it could be a melee touch attack to grab its victims, which would. Large Aberration or Ooze Hit Dice: 8d#+# (## hp) [8d10 if Ooze, 8d8 if Aberration] Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+8 Attack: Tentacle +3 melee touch (grapple) Full Attack: [Two? Four?] tentacles +3 melee touch (grapple) Space/Reach: 10 ft./ 5 ft. (15 ft. with tentacles) Special Attacks: Devouring, improved grab Abilities: Str 6 or 7 Guess we could make it so the extraplanar application of Devouring is considered Medium sized as a bag of devouring itself is 2 foot by 4 foot, (or just give it a –4 circumstance penalty?). Then if the Ihagnim has Strength 14 or 15 it could have a +12 grapple as a Large ooze, and +8 grapple when devouring. If the tentacles had a regular melee attack, that'd be: As Above, Except Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+12 (+8 when devouring) Attack: Tentacle +7 melee (grapple) Full Attack: [Two? Four?] tentacles +7 melee (grapple) Abilities: Str 14 or 15 A point worth mentioning is a bag of holding type I has a maximum contents limit of 250 pounds as well as the 30 cubic feet volume limit. That weight is way too low for that volume.  250 lbs is roughly the weight of 4 cubic feet of water, and 30 cubic feet of water would be around 1,875 lbs or just under a ton.It'd seem better to limit it to a number of creatures of a certain size, as is used for Swallow Whole. Maybe it can devour 1 Medium creature at a time?</blockquote>

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