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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9611035" data-attributes="member: 57383">In AD&D a standard Ogre is AC 5, one point worse than the Fachan's AC 4.The 1E illustration shows two fachan that are bare-arse naked, while the 2E illustration's Fachan is dressed in normal clothes that have been ripped up to fit its inhuman anatomy. It has a jacket with the front open so its arm can fit through and a hulk-sized pair of shorts worn sideways to accommodate its single leg.That suggests this Fachan Giant has tougher skin than a common ogre and it might have a higher Dexterity too.Scrub that, it's mentioned in the flavour text: "They move about with a sort of hopping run and are quite agile" and "despite this bulk can leap from a prone to a standing position in one segment."Sounds like we should kick the Dexterity up from 8 to something that provides a Dex bonus.The more dexterous SRD Giants are the Cloud (Dex 13), Storm (Dex 14) and Stone (Dex 15).How about going for the middle of those with Dex 14 for the Fachan?If we're keeping the point better AC than a standard Ogre, those are AC 16 in 3E so the Fachan would be AC 17. With Dex 14 that'd be: Armor Class: 17 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +6 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 15</blockquote>