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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5057736" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>OK. So we seem to be agreed on two kinds, with Tiny 1 HD Magical Beasts (Extraplanar) for the the Lessers.</p><p></p><p>What size and Hit Dice for the Greater's? I was thinking Large or Huge, but am leaning towards Large. If they follow the usual double HD per size increase that would put them at 8-16 Hit Dice.</p><p></p><p>How about Large 13 HD?</p><p></p><p>Hmm, going back to the idea of a Dust Spider Swarm, maybe the Greater Dust Spider isn't a single creature, but a colonial being formed from hundreds or thousands of Lesser Dust Spiders?</p><p></p><p>Although I think I prefer the idea of them just being giant versions of the Lessers.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I'd like to leave that aside for the time being and talk about ability scores for the Lessers. Here are some comparisons:</p><p></p><p> <strong>SRD Large Phase Spider:</strong> Str 17, Dex 17, Con 16, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10</p><p><strong>=> Tiny Phase Spider *:</strong> Str 1, Dex 23, Con 8, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10</p><p><strong>Tiny Monstrous Spider:</strong> Str 3, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 0, Wis 10, Cha 2</p><p></p><p>*Following normal Advancement rules</p><p></p><p>Of those I think the Tiny Phase Spider is the best fit. Since the original's only got AC8 I would only give them Dex 15 or so. Maybe average the Strength with the Tiny Monstrous Spider so it isn't quite so feeble? Con 8 would give it the equivalent of 1-1 Hit Dice instead of the original's whole HD, so I'd like to bump Con up to 10, like the Monstrous Spider.</p><p></p><p>That would give us:</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Lesser Dust Spider:</strong> Str 2, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5057736, member: 57383"] OK. So we seem to be agreed on two kinds, with Tiny 1 HD Magical Beasts (Extraplanar) for the the Lessers. What size and Hit Dice for the Greater's? I was thinking Large or Huge, but am leaning towards Large. If they follow the usual double HD per size increase that would put them at 8-16 Hit Dice. How about Large 13 HD? Hmm, going back to the idea of a Dust Spider Swarm, maybe the Greater Dust Spider isn't a single creature, but a colonial being formed from hundreds or thousands of Lesser Dust Spiders? Although I think I prefer the idea of them just being giant versions of the Lessers. Anyhow, I'd like to leave that aside for the time being and talk about ability scores for the Lessers. Here are some comparisons: [B]SRD Large Phase Spider:[/B] Str 17, Dex 17, Con 16, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10 [B]=> Tiny Phase Spider *:[/B] Str 1, Dex 23, Con 8, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10 [B]Tiny Monstrous Spider:[/B] Str 3, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 0, Wis 10, Cha 2 *Following normal Advancement rules Of those I think the Tiny Phase Spider is the best fit. Since the original's only got AC8 I would only give them Dex 15 or so. Maybe average the Strength with the Tiny Monstrous Spider so it isn't quite so feeble? Con 8 would give it the equivalent of 1-1 Hit Dice instead of the original's whole HD, so I'd like to bump Con up to 10, like the Monstrous Spider. That would give us: [B] Lesser Dust Spider:[/B] Str 2, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 10 [/QUOTE]
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