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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6806590" data-attributes="member: 57383">Updating <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?POSTs" target="_blank">Maturing Baatorian Working Draft</a>.Upon reflection, I think the central sentence would work better like so:Alternate Form (Su): At will, a maturing baatorian creature can sprout a mass of grotesque tentacles from its torso. All its abilities remain unchanged despite the alien appearance, with the following exceptions: the maturing baatorian can only use its 10 tentacle attacks (as described above) when in its alternate form, plus it gains a +12 racial bonus to Escape Artist checks and a +6 racial bonus to Strength checks to break free from any sort of bonds (manacles, webs, et cetera). Changing shape is a standard action.The current wording could be interpreted as it having twenty tentacle attacks when in its Alternate Form and ten in its regular form - since it &quot;gains 10 tentacle attacks&quot;.Constitution damage certainly, but I don't see any indication they're touch attacks. The original stats read as normal melee attacks to me, doing 1d6 damage plus 1 Con.As for the other abilities, it has immunity to cold, fire and electricity plus spell resistance and regeneration that's slow but so persistent it's only slowed by holy damage rather than being cancelled by it.Those defenses are tougher than a Nupperibo, which have standard Baatezu immunities and resistances – no damage from fire or poison and half damage from cold and gas in AD&amp;D 2E – and have no spell resistance and their regeneration doesn't work at all against holy damage.I guess we shouldn't give it a Baatezu's See in Darkness SQ, since it isn't a Baatezu.That raises a question – should we give it a &quot;Baatorian&quot; subtype?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6806590, member: 57383"] Updating [B][URL="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?POSTs"]Maturing Baatorian Working Draft[/URL][/B]. Upon reflection, I think the central sentence would work better like so: [B]Alternate Form (Su):[/B] At will, a maturing baatorian creature can sprout a mass of grotesque tentacles from its torso. All its abilities remain unchanged despite the alien appearance, with the following exceptions: [COLOR="#00FFFF"]the maturing baatorian can only use its 10 tentacle attacks (as described above) when in its alternate form[/COLOR], plus it gains a +12 racial bonus to Escape Artist checks and a +6 racial bonus to Strength checks to break free from any sort of bonds (manacles, webs, et cetera). Changing shape is a standard action. The current wording could be interpreted as it having twenty tentacle attacks when in its Alternate Form and ten in its regular form - since it "gains 10 tentacle attacks". Constitution damage certainly, but I don't see any indication they're touch attacks. The original stats read as normal melee attacks to me, doing 1d6 damage plus 1 Con. As for the other abilities, it has immunity to cold, fire and electricity plus spell resistance and regeneration that's slow but so persistent it's only [I]slowed[/I] by holy damage rather than being cancelled by it. Those defenses are tougher than a Nupperibo, which have standard Baatezu immunities and resistances – no damage from fire or poison and half damage from cold and gas in AD&D 2E – and have no spell resistance and their regeneration doesn't work at all against holy damage. I guess we shouldn't give it a Baatezu's See in Darkness SQ, since it isn't a Baatezu. That raises a question – should we give it a "Baatorian" subtype? [/QUOTE]

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