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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5600433" data-attributes="member: 57383">Have we got the Gator Men and Sis'thik converted?I don't remember participating in a conversion of either of those lizard-kin, so is their a pre-Cleon conversion of them in the Creature Catalog?A google search could only find a Vaults of Pandius conversion for the <a href="http://pandius.com/gatorman.html" target="_blank">Gator Man</a> and <a href="http://pandius.com/sisthik.html" target="_blank">Sis'thik</a>.It's a real nuisance that the CC index is buggered up, but it looks like we might need to do our own.EDIT: Yes, I know that the Red Steel entry says that Gurrash are also called &quot;gator men&quot;, but the Mystaran Monstrous Compendium's &quot;Gator Man&quot; is a good deal tougher than a Gurrash - it's 7 HD &amp; AC 3 versus 3 HD and AC 5, plus there's no mention of the Gurrash's special attacks (Tail-slap, Drown) and they have a different origin story as the result of &quot;Evil Mages&quot; hybridising lizard men with alligators.That suggests that (mechanically, at least) the Gator Men have a similar relationship to Gurrash as Giant Crocodiles have to regular Crocodiles, since their HD relationship is the same (HD 7 vs HD 3).Or, for an alternative view, the Gator Men are the Ogre-equivalent to the Gurrash Orc-equivalent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5600433, member: 57383"] Have we got the Gator Men and Sis'thik converted? I don't remember participating in a conversion of either of those lizard-kin, so is their a pre-Cleon conversion of them in the Creature Catalog? A google search could only find a Vaults of Pandius conversion for the [URL="http://pandius.com/gatorman.html"][B]Gator Man[/B][/URL] and [URL="http://pandius.com/sisthik.html"][B]Sis'thik[/B][/URL]. It's a real nuisance that the CC index is buggered up, but it looks like we might need to do our own. EDIT: Yes, I know that the Red Steel entry says that Gurrash are also called "gator men", but the Mystaran Monstrous Compendium's "Gator Man" is a good deal tougher than a Gurrash - it's 7 HD & AC 3 versus 3 HD and AC 5, plus there's no mention of the Gurrash's special attacks (Tail-slap, Drown) and they have a different origin story as the result of "Evil Mages" hybridising lizard men with alligators. That suggests that (mechanically, at least) the Gator Men have a similar relationship to Gurrash as Giant Crocodiles have to regular Crocodiles, since their HD relationship is the same (HD 7 vs HD 3). Or, for an alternative view, the Gator Men are the Ogre-equivalent to the Gurrash Orc-equivalent. [/QUOTE]

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