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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6952507" data-attributes="member: 57383">I think we might as well keep the Sin-Eating Affliction Table for the sake of legacy and clarity.Okay, so we've got something along these lines:Whenever an ovinaur completes a sin-eating ceremony it gains corruption  points equal to the HD or level of the evil creature whose sins it  absorbed. These corruption points are cumulative.Each time the ovinaur  eats sins, it must compare its current corruption total to its own Hit  Dice on the Sin Ratio Table and roll the indicated affliction dice. The ovinaur receives an affliction penalty from that sin-eating equal to half the affliction dice result rounded up. If the affliction dice result is an odd number the penalty applies to Charisma, if it is an even number the penalty applies to Constitution. The affliction penalty can also be determined by looking up the affliction dice roll result on the Sin-Eating  Affliction Table.Affliction penalties are not cumulative but Con and Cha penalties are  counted separately. For example, an ovinaur with a –3 Cha affliction  penalty that rolls a –2 Cha penalty stays at a –3 Cha penalty, but if it  rolled a –2 Con penalty it would now have both –3 Cha and –2 Con  penalties.Sin Ratio TableSin Ratio* .Affliction Dice . Purification DCup to 0.25 . . . .1d3 . . . . . . DC XXup to 0.5 . . . . 1d4+1 . . . . . DC XXup to 0.75 . . . .1d6+1 . . . . . DC XXup to 1.0 . . . . 1d6+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 1.5 . . . . 1d8+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 2.0 . . . .1d10+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 2.5 . . . .1d12+3 . . . . . DC XXup to 3.0 . . . . 2d6+4 . . . . . DC XXup to 4.0 . . . . 2d6+6 . . . . . DC XXmore than 4.0 . . 2d6+8 . . . . . DC XXHmm… I'm thinking maybe we can tweak the Affliction dice a bit so they all give uniformly odd & even results:Sin Ratio TableSin Ratio* .Affliction Dice . Purification DCup to 0.25 . . . .1d2 . . . . . . DC XXup to 0.5 . . . . 1d4 . . . . . . DC XXup to 0.75 . . . .1d6 . . . . . . DC XXup to 1.0 . . . . 1d6+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 1.5 . . . . 1d8+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 2.0 . . . .1d10+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 2.5 . . . .1d12+2 . . . . . DC XXup to 3.0 . . . .1d12+4 . . . . . DC XXup to 4.0 . . . .1d12+6 . . . . . DC XXmore than 4.0 . .1d12+8 . . . . . DC XXIf nothing else, the above give a bit more love to the neglected dodecahedron.We'd agreed earlier on base of 10 and +2 per line, which would have put it up to DC 28 at the end.That does seem a bit high. Contrariwise DC 20 seems slightly too easy - that's a 10% chance of success for an average Wis 12 Ovinaur at maxxed-out corruption, and such a creature is likely to be loading up on bonuses to give itself better odds.How about we aim for particular start- and end-DCs and back-figure the DCs from there? I'm leaning towards starting about 8-10 and ending at 22-24. Here are some possibilities:Sin . . . . . . . Affliction . . PurificationRatio . . . . . . Dice . Range . DC#1 DC#2 DC#3up to 0.25 . . . .1d3 . . 1-3 . . 10 . 10 .. 8up to 0.5 . . . . 1d4+1 . 2-5 . . 12 . 12 . 10up to 0.75 . . . .1d6+1 . 2-7 . . 14 . 14 . 12up to 1.0 . . . . 1d6+2 . 3-8 . . 16 . 16 . 14up to 1.5 . . . . 1d8+2 . 3-10. . 17 . 17 . 15up to 2.0 . . . .1d10+2 . 3-12. . 18 . 18 . 16up to 2.5 . . . .1d12+3 . 4-15. . 19 . 19 . 17up to 3.0 . . . . 2d6+4 . 6-16. . 20 . 20 . 18up to 4.0 . . . . 2d6+6 . 8-18. . 21 . 22 . 20more than 4.0 . . 2d6+8 .10-20. . 22 . 24 . 22I'm leaning towards #1 or #2.I'd prefer to include a wide range of undead since the original text set no limitations to what deathless horror a sin-eaten ovinaur can return as.If we're using template-only and stick to the SRD that gives us very few undead to pick from. Four to be precise: Ghost, Vampire, Skeleton & Zombie - and one of those is incorporeal!Going strictly by the rules it can't be a Ghost or Vampire, because those templates don't work on Outsiders - that'd only leave us Skeleton & Zombie! Since we want to include intelligent undead we'll need to add a note that Sin-Eating Undead are a special case.</blockquote>

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