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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7613039" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well AD&amp;D monsters didn't normally have Constitution scores, but if it were a regular PC having Hit Dice of 2d8+4 would require a +2 HP/die bonus - which is AD&amp;D requires Con 16.As for Strength, +2 damage matches to an AD&amp;D Strength of 18 (non-percentile).Maybe it'd help to compare them to a regular humanoid of similar size?An AD&amp;D Bugbear is slightly taller (7′ feet versus 6′-7′) has the same +2 to damage bonus and a lower bonus to its HD (3+1 versus 2+4).Maybe give it the same Strength as a Bugbear but higher Constitution? A 3E Bugbear has Str 15, Con 13.Hmm… let's stick to the Str 15, Con 18 you suggest.Dex 11 seems a bit odd for a four-armed multiweapon fighter but if it was high one would expect the text to mention them having high agility of some kind. Maybe their many-weapon coordination is an extraordinary power like an Ettin, Marilith or Dolgrim? Ettins have Dex 8 in 3E but still fight without penalty.However, even a Bugbear has Dex 12 in 3E so I'm sorely tempted to tweak it up to a +1 Dex bonus. Either to 12 like a Bugbear or 13 like a Hobgoblin. A 13 wins my favour since it opens up a few feat possibilities.They're slightly smarter than a Bugbear (average vs. low-average) but not enough to make a mechanical difference, so how about giving them Intelligence 11 instead of 10? We could just swap the Int and Wisdom round.That'd make them Str 15, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 11, Wis 10, Cha 10.Does that meet your approval?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7613039, member: 57383"] Well AD&D monsters didn't normally have Constitution scores, but if it were a regular PC having Hit Dice of 2d8+4 would require a +2 HP/die bonus - which is AD&D requires Con 16. As for Strength, +2 damage matches to an AD&D Strength of 18 (non-percentile). Maybe it'd help to compare them to a regular humanoid of similar size? An AD&D Bugbear is slightly taller (7′ feet versus 6′-7′) has the same +2 to damage bonus and a lower bonus to its HD (3+1 versus 2+4). Maybe give it the same Strength as a Bugbear but higher Constitution? A 3E Bugbear has Str 15, Con 13. Hmm… let's stick to the Str 15, Con 18 you suggest. Dex 11 seems a bit odd for a four-armed multiweapon fighter but if it was high one would expect the text to mention them having high agility of some kind. Maybe their many-weapon coordination is an extraordinary power like an Ettin, Marilith or Dolgrim? Ettins have Dex 8 in 3E but still fight without penalty. However, even a Bugbear has Dex 12 in 3E so I'm sorely tempted to tweak it up to a +1 Dex bonus. Either to 12 like a Bugbear or 13 like a Hobgoblin. A 13 wins my favour since it opens up a few feat possibilities. They're slightly smarter than a Bugbear (average vs. low-average) but not enough to make a mechanical difference, so how about giving them Intelligence 11 instead of 10? We could just swap the Int and Wisdom round. That'd make them Str 15, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 11, Wis 10, Cha 10. Does that meet your approval? [/QUOTE]

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