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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9131157" data-attributes="member: 57383">Hmm… I'd eyeball it as around Challenge Rating 3 or 4 but comparing it to, say an Ogre, I'll agree to CR 4.Spell Resistance 7 feels too weak. I'm inclined to make it SR 10 so a 4th-level caster has a 25% failure chance.As well as being a nice round number, these creatures can be encountered in groups.For example, Chapter V: Modron Madness of The Great Modron March (1997) features a group of seven modronoids who the PCs will have to fight, most likely while facing Valran Stonefist, the 7th-level magic-user who made them (a CR 7 wizard in 3E terms). Seven CR 4 monsters is an EL 10 battle. On paper that's a tough encounter for a 7th-level party. If we want a 7th level party's spellcasters to have a 10% spell failure chance the modronoids need Spell Resistance 10; if they had SR 7 a 7th level caster would blow through their spell resistance like it wasn't there.Incidentally, the party's final encounter with Valran is in Chapter X: The Flower Infernal when he's become a 13th level spellcaster and a decaton modronoid, so must be at least CR 14. I'm presuming we'll use him as a model for our Hierarch Modronoid sample creature.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9131157, member: 57383"] Hmm… I'd eyeball it as around Challenge Rating 3 or 4 but comparing it to, say an Ogre, I'll agree to CR 4. Spell Resistance 7 feels too weak. I'm inclined to make it SR 10 so a 4th-level caster has a 25% failure chance. As well as being a nice round number, these creatures can be encountered in groups. For example, Chapter V: Modron Madness of [i]The Great Modron March[/i] (1997) features a group of seven modronoids who the PCs will have to fight, most likely while facing Valran Stonefist, the 7th-level magic-user who made them (a CR 7 wizard in 3E terms). Seven CR 4 monsters is an EL 10 battle. On paper that's a tough encounter for a 7th-level party. If we want a 7th level party's spellcasters to have a 10% spell failure chance the modronoids need Spell Resistance 10; if they had SR 7 a 7th level caster would blow through their spell resistance like it wasn't there. Incidentally, the party's final encounter with Valran is in Chapter X: The Flower Infernal when he's become a 13th level spellcaster and a decaton modronoid, so must be at least CR 14. I'm presuming we'll use him as a model for our Hierarch Modronoid sample creature. [/QUOTE]

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