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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9842429" data-attributes="member: 57383">Comparing the official 3.0 and 3.5 versions of the higher base modrons, the latter have one more Hit Dice and significantly better AC and ability scores.Quadrone:3.0 D&DMedium-Size OutsiderHit Dice: 4d8+4 (22 hp)Armor Class: 16 (+2 Dex, +4 natural)Abilities: Str 16, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 11Modron Traits: Immune to mind-influencing effects; not subject to subdual damage, ability damage, ability drain, or energy drain; not subject to critical hits.Wizards of the Coast Website3.5 D&DAlways LN Medium construct (extraplanar, lawful)AC 19, touch  14, flat-footed 15 (+4 Dex, +5 natural)hp 47 (5 HD)Immune construct traitsAbilities  Str 16, Dex 18, Con —, Int 14, Wis 15, Cha 12Dragon #354Pentadrone:3.0 D&DMedium-Size OutsiderHit Dice: 5d8+10 (32 hp)Armor Class: 17 (+3 Dex, +4 natural)Abilities: Str 18, Dex 16, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 12Modron Traits: Immune to mind-influencing effects; not subject to subdual damage, ability damage, ability drain, or energy drain; not subject to critical hits.Wizards of the Coast Website3.5 D&DAlways LN Medium construct (extraplanar, lawful)AC 21, touch  12, flat-footed 19 (+2 Dex, +9 natural)hp 53 (6 HD)Immune construct traitsAbilities  Str 22, Dex 12, Con —, Int 17, Wis 16, Cha 16Dragon #354If our 3.5 version of the Decaton follows the Dragon #354 precedence it would have a few more Hit Dice.The ability scores are also noticeably lacking. Like, all of them.I'm fine with keeping the Armour Class 25 of the 3.0 version, but if we boost the Dexterity higher we'll either have to lower the NA or make its AC higher.3.5 monsters tends to have lower Damage Reduction than their 3.0 versions. A Vrock, for example, has DR 20/+2 in 3.0 and DR 10/good in 3.5.How about 10/chaotic?</blockquote>

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