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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5609562" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">200 kilos is too light for a 3 metre tall ground sloth. That's probably the weight of an average-sized specimen considerably smaller than the 10 foot maximum height it goes "up to". I've seen skeletons of ground sloths that were shorter than a man, albeit much stockier. Since we're talking a creature with the Str and HD of a Rhinoceros, it's presumably one of the bigger Mylodontid sloths, just not elephant-sized like the largest <em>Megatherium</em>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A <em>Megatherium</em> can reach 6000 pounds if I remember correctly. Assuming that's what the 20 foot-long, 15-foot tall <strong><em>Fiend Folio</em></strong> version weighs, a 10 foot tall sloth should be about 2500 pounds.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Let's see what info I can find...</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">According to the San Diego Zoo website's <a href="http://library.sandiegozoo.org/factsheets/_extinct/sloth_extinct/extinct_sloth_summary.htm" target="_blank"><strong>handy facts sheet</strong></a>, a large ground sloth was about as big as a bison, and a small one was the size of a brown bear.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Hmm, I'm thinking we could stat up the smaller ground sloths as a Medium sized creature.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Oh, by the way, did you know some ground sloths <a href="http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/07/mylodon-burrows-in-patagonia.html" target="_blank"><strong>dug burrows</strong></a> and there were also <a href="http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/07/marine-ground-sloths.html" target="_blank"><strong>marine species</strong></a>?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I also don't much care for the "wickedly sharp" claws. They're more like picks than razors.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">How's this:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Ground Sloth (<em>Mylodon</em>)</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>This large, red-haired sloth has </em></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>powerful forelegs with huge,</em></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em> curved claws.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Mylodons are giant ground sloths related to the larger <em>Megatherium</em>. Its diet consists of trees and shrubs, and it grazes mostly in open areas. Some Mylodons use their powerful claws to dig out burrows, such burrows can be 7 feet wide, 5 feet high up to 100 feet long.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This entry describes the larger varieties of mylodon. </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">These bison-sized animals weigh around 2500 pounds and stand about 10 feet tall when walking on their hind legs, or about 4 feet tall and 13 feet long when on all fours. </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">See lesser ground sloths, below, for details</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> of the smaller species.</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Ground Sloth, Lesser</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Medium Animal</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Hit Dice: 4d8+16 (26 hp)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Initiative: +1</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Armor Class: 18 (+1 Dex, +7 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 17</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Attack: Claw +5 melee (1d4+2)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Full Attack: 2 claws +5 melee (1d4+2) and bite +0 melee (1d6+1)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Special Attacks: Improved grab, pin down</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Saves: Fort +10, Ref +5, Will +2</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Abilities: Str 15, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 8</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Skills: Listen +6, Spot +7</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Feats: Alertness, Great Fortitude</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Environment: Any forest, hill, or plains</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Organization: Solitary or family (2-4)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Challenge Rating: 2</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Treasure: None</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Alignment: Always neutral</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Advancement: 5-6 HD (Medium)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Level Adjustment: —</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">About the size of a black bear, lesser ground sloths are the smallest cousins of the giant ground sloth <em>Megatherium</em>. About 8 feet long and 2½ feet tall when walking on all fours, or 6 feet tall when walking upright, a lesser ground sloth usually weighs 400 to 500 pounds.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Giant Marine Sloth</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Thalassocnus </em>was a variety of giant sloth that had taken to see sea to graze on seaweed. A </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">giant marine sloths' </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">limbs are adapted for the water, this makes them good swimmers but prevents </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Thalassocnus </em></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">making trample attacks. They have the same stats as a normal Mylodon ground sloth, except for the following changes:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), swim 30 ft.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> Special Attacks: Improved grab, pin down</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., hold breath, low-light vision, scent</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Skills: Listen +8, Spot +9, Swim +12</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Environment: Warm aquatic</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Challenge Rating: 5</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Hold Breath (Ex):</strong> A giant marine sloth can hold its breath for a number of rounds equal to 6 × its Constitution score before it risks drowning. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Skills:</strong> A giant marine sloth has a +8 racial bonus on any Swim check to perform some special action or avoid a hazard. It can always choose to take 10 on a Swim check, even if distracted or endangered. It can use the run action while swimming, provided it swims in a straight line.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5609562, member: 57383"] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]200 kilos is too light for a 3 metre tall ground sloth. That's probably the weight of an average-sized specimen considerably smaller than the 10 foot maximum height it goes "up to". I've seen skeletons of ground sloths that were shorter than a man, albeit much stockier. Since we're talking a creature with the Str and HD of a Rhinoceros, it's presumably one of the bigger Mylodontid sloths, just not elephant-sized like the largest [I]Megatherium[/I]. A [I]Megatherium[/I] can reach 6000 pounds if I remember correctly. Assuming that's what the 20 foot-long, 15-foot tall [B][I]Fiend Folio[/I][/B] version weighs, a 10 foot tall sloth should be about 2500 pounds. Let's see what info I can find... According to the San Diego Zoo website's [URL="http://library.sandiegozoo.org/factsheets/_extinct/sloth_extinct/extinct_sloth_summary.htm"][B]handy facts sheet[/B][/URL], a large ground sloth was about as big as a bison, and a small one was the size of a brown bear. Hmm, I'm thinking we could stat up the smaller ground sloths as a Medium sized creature. Oh, by the way, did you know some ground sloths [URL="http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/07/mylodon-burrows-in-patagonia.html"][B]dug burrows[/B][/URL] and there were also [URL="http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/07/marine-ground-sloths.html"][B]marine species[/B][/URL]? I also don't much care for the "wickedly sharp" claws. They're more like picks than razors. How's this: [B][SIZE=4]Ground Sloth ([I]Mylodon[/I])[/SIZE][/B] [I]This large, red-haired sloth has [/I][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][I]powerful forelegs with huge,[/I][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][I] curved claws.[/I] Mylodons are giant ground sloths related to the larger [I]Megatherium[/I]. Its diet consists of trees and shrubs, and it grazes mostly in open areas. Some Mylodons use their powerful claws to dig out burrows, such burrows can be 7 feet wide, 5 feet high up to 100 feet long. This entry describes the larger varieties of mylodon. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]These bison-sized animals weigh around 2500 pounds and stand about 10 feet tall when walking on their hind legs, or about 4 feet tall and 13 feet long when on all fours. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]See lesser ground sloths, below, for details[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] of the smaller species. [SIZE=4] [B]Ground Sloth, Lesser[/B][/SIZE] Medium Animal Hit Dice: 4d8+16 (26 hp) Initiative: +1 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares) Armor Class: 18 (+1 Dex, +7 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 17 Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+5 Attack: Claw +5 melee (1d4+2) Full Attack: 2 claws +5 melee (1d4+2) and bite +0 melee (1d6+1) Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Improved grab, pin down Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent Saves: Fort +10, Ref +5, Will +2 Abilities: Str 15, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 8 Skills: Listen +6, Spot +7 Feats: Alertness, Great Fortitude Environment: Any forest, hill, or plains Organization: Solitary or family (2-4) Challenge Rating: 2 Treasure: None Alignment: Always neutral Advancement: 5-6 HD (Medium) Level Adjustment: — About the size of a black bear, lesser ground sloths are the smallest cousins of the giant ground sloth [I]Megatherium[/I]. About 8 feet long and 2½ feet tall when walking on all fours, or 6 feet tall when walking upright, a lesser ground sloth usually weighs 400 to 500 pounds. [SIZE=3][B]Giant Marine Sloth[/B][/SIZE] [I]Thalassocnus [/I]was a variety of giant sloth that had taken to see sea to graze on seaweed. A [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]giant marine sloths' [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]limbs are adapted for the water, this makes them good swimmers but prevents [/FONT][FONT=Verdana][I]Thalassocnus [/I][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]making trample attacks. They have the same stats as a normal Mylodon ground sloth, except for the following changes: Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), swim 30 ft. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] Special Attacks: Improved grab, pin down[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., hold breath, low-light vision, scent Skills: Listen +8, Spot +9, Swim +12 Environment: Warm aquatic Challenge Rating: 5 [B]Hold Breath (Ex):[/B] A giant marine sloth can hold its breath for a number of rounds equal to 6 × its Constitution score before it risks drowning. [B]Skills:[/B] A giant marine sloth has a +8 racial bonus on any Swim check to perform some special action or avoid a hazard. It can always choose to take 10 on a Swim check, even if distracted or endangered. It can use the run action while swimming, provided it swims in a straight line.[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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