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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5757830" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I prefer having them all under one entry, like the different sizes of Tojanida or Monstrous Spider.</p><p></p><p>I've already put the outlines in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/5748113-post490.html" target="_blank"><strong>Working Draft</strong></a>.</p><p></p><p>The main decision to make is what feats to give them.</p><p></p><p>It should be pretty obvious I don't want to give the Colossal version seven Toughness feats like the Dragon #318 <em>Liopleurodon</em>. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>How about:</p><p></p><p><strong>Huge Pliosaur</strong><strong> (4 feats)</strong><strong>:</strong> Great Fortitude, Improved Critical (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite)</p><p></p><p><strong>Gargantuan Pliosaur (7 feats + <span style="color: Red">1 epic feat</span>):</strong> Awesome Blow, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Epic Toughness</strong></span>, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Natural Attack (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite)</p><p></p><p>Not so sure what to do about the Colossal version. Since it's <em>possibly</em> an exaggeratedly large & powerful creature I'm tempted to give it the Devastating Critical chain, for a DC 47 save vs death. That <em>might</em> be a bit too nasty though.</p><p></p><p><strong>Colossal Pliosaur</strong><strong> #1 (7 feats + <span style="color: Red">6 epic feats</span>)</strong><strong>:</strong> Awesome Blow, Cleave, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Devastating Critical</strong></span>, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Epic Toughness</strong></span>, Great Cleave, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Improved Natural Attack (bite), <span style="color: Red"><strong>Overwhelming Critical</strong></span>, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite)</p><p></p><p>Could just give it Improved Initiative (like Liopleurodon) and a straightforward mix of save- and hp-boosting epic feats (Epic Reflexes, two Epic Toughnesses and an Epic Will):</p><p></p><p><strong>Colossal Pliosaur</strong><strong> #2 (7 feats + <span style="color: Red">6 epic feats</span>)</strong><strong>:</strong> Awesome Blow, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Epic Reflexes</strong></span>, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Epic Toughness × 3</strong></span>, <span style="color: Red"><strong>Epic Will</strong></span>, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Improved Natural Attack (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite)</p><p></p><p>Hmm... for everyday use I prefer #2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5757830, member: 57383"] I prefer having them all under one entry, like the different sizes of Tojanida or Monstrous Spider. I've already put the outlines in the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/5748113-post490.html"][B]Working Draft[/B][/URL]. The main decision to make is what feats to give them. It should be pretty obvious I don't want to give the Colossal version seven Toughness feats like the Dragon #318 [I]Liopleurodon[/I]. :) How about: [B]Huge Pliosaur[/B][B] (4 feats)[/B][B]:[/B] Great Fortitude, Improved Critical (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite) [B]Gargantuan Pliosaur (7 feats + [COLOR=Red]1 epic feat[/COLOR]):[/B] Awesome Blow, [COLOR=Red][B]Epic Toughness[/B][/COLOR], Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Natural Attack (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite) Not so sure what to do about the Colossal version. Since it's [I]possibly[/I] an exaggeratedly large & powerful creature I'm tempted to give it the Devastating Critical chain, for a DC 47 save vs death. That [I]might[/I] be a bit too nasty though. [B]Colossal Pliosaur[/B][B] #1 (7 feats + [COLOR=Red]6 epic feats[/COLOR])[/B][B]:[/B] Awesome Blow, Cleave, [COLOR=Red][B]Devastating Critical[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=Red][B]Epic Toughness[/B][/COLOR], Great Cleave, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Improved Natural Attack (bite), [COLOR=Red][B]Overwhelming Critical[/B][/COLOR], Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite) Could just give it Improved Initiative (like Liopleurodon) and a straightforward mix of save- and hp-boosting epic feats (Epic Reflexes, two Epic Toughnesses and an Epic Will): [B]Colossal Pliosaur[/B][B] #2 (7 feats + [COLOR=Red]6 epic feats[/COLOR])[/B][B]:[/B] Awesome Blow, [COLOR=Red][B]Epic Reflexes[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=Red][B]Epic Toughness × 3[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=Red][B]Epic Will[/B][/COLOR], Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Improved Natural Attack (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite) Hmm... for everyday use I prefer #2. [/QUOTE]
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