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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5227861" data-attributes="member: 57383">Solitary and no treasure are good.Challenge Rating 11 seems about right. I suspect you'd have to playtest one of these a bit to tell how nasty they really are.&nbsp;I like the notion of them Advancing to Gargantuan but would prefer a bit more HD spread at that size. Maybe give them the same HD maximum as a Kraken?15-20 HD (Large); 21-40 HD (Huge);&nbsp; 41-60 HD (Gargantuan)I'd have them speak Infernal as well as Abyssal, since they've turned to Law and their isn't an SRD Lawful Outsider language.As for their size, we have no clue as to how big their disc-shaped body is. They're the only one of the monsters in Dragon 47's &quot;Creatures From Elsewhere&quot; article that lacks an illustration. So for want of anything better shall we say their bodies are 5-7 feet in diameter and a foot to a cubit thick, with 7-8 foot tentacles about 6 inches thick. A back of an envelope calculation suggests such a creature should weigh somewhere around 1500-3000 pounds.That would give a description something like:A single red eye glares from the center of a flattened disc of mud-brown flesh with eight tentacles radiating around its rim. Each tentacle is longer than a man and ends in a grey sucker cup.

A typical sugo has a body 5 to 7 feet in diameter and tentacles 7 or 8 foot long, it weighs around 1500 to 3000 pounds. </blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5227861, member: 57383"] Solitary and no treasure are good. Challenge Rating 11 seems about right. I suspect you'd have to playtest one of these a bit to tell how nasty they really are. I like the notion of them Advancing to Gargantuan but would prefer a bit more HD spread at that size. Maybe give them the same HD maximum as a Kraken? 15-20 HD (Large); 21-40 HD (Huge); 41-60 HD (Gargantuan) I'd have them speak Infernal as well as Abyssal, since they've turned to Law and their isn't an SRD Lawful Outsider language. As for their size, we have no clue as to how big their disc-shaped body is. They're the only one of the monsters in Dragon 47's "Creatures From Elsewhere" article that lacks an illustration. So for want of anything better shall we say their bodies are 5-7 feet in diameter and a foot to a cubit thick, with 7-8 foot tentacles about 6 inches thick. A back of an envelope calculation suggests such a creature should weigh somewhere around 1500-3000 pounds. That would give a description something like: [INDENT][I]A single red eye glares from the center of a flattened disc of mud-brown flesh with eight tentacles radiating around its rim. Each tentacle is longer than a man and ends in a grey sucker cup.[/I] A typical sugo has a body 5 to 7 feet in diameter and tentacles 7 or 8 foot long, it weighs around 1500 to 3000 pounds. [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]

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