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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6070081" data-attributes="member: 57383">The original spell was 5th level, but I think that's too far. Indeed, I feel 7th may be too low. They're getting free mind blank in the bargain and that's an 8th level spell.The original spell specifies &quot;the spell conceals the caster’s true alignment with the chaotic neutral aura of a wingless wonder, as well as shielding the caster’s mind from all contact: it can’t be read, influenced, or attacked&quot;.I was thinking of adding a &quot;detects as chaotic neutral&quot; bit to the spell but thought we'd better discuss it first.Another issue is the wingless wonder's Spell Resistance. I don't think we should use the CR+21 formula of the monster - 'cause that'll give it SR 36+! We could give them the SR CL+12 of a spell resistance spell (which is conveniently the same as a walking egg's spell resistance). Alternatively, we could fix the spell resistance to the SR 23 of a standard wingless wonder, which is less than the SR 26+ a wizard able to cast a 7th level wonderform spell would get from a spell resistance spell.Making it an 8th level spell would suit me better, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6070081, member: 57383"] The original spell was 5th level, but I think that's too far. Indeed, I feel 7th may be too low. They're getting free [I]mind blank[/I] in the bargain and that's an 8th level spell. The original spell specifies "[I]the spell conceals the caster’s true alignment with the chaotic neutral aura of a wingless wonder, as well as shielding the caster’s mind from all contact: it can’t be read, influenced, or attacked[/I]". I was thinking of adding a "detects as chaotic neutral" bit to the spell but thought we'd better discuss it first. Another issue is the wingless wonder's Spell Resistance. I don't think we should use the CR+21 formula of the monster - 'cause that'll give it SR 36+! We could give them the SR CL+12 of a [I]spell resistance[/I] spell (which is conveniently the same as a walking egg's spell resistance). Alternatively, we could fix the spell resistance to the SR 23 of a standard wingless wonder, which is less than the SR 26+ a wizard able to cast a 7th level [I]wonderform[/I] spell would get from a [I]spell resistance[/I] spell. Making it an 8th level spell would suit me better, though. [/QUOTE]

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