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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5001013" data-attributes="member: 57383">I'm afraid not, when I said &quot;Real-world raft spiders are venomous, like almost all spiders&quot; I meant it. Like so much in life there are exceptions. The family Uloboridae includes spiders that have lost their venom glands. It seems quite clear to me it's meant to be a Dolomedes type &quot;fishing spider&quot;. Diving bell spiders don't run across the water as described, indeed most live their whole lives underwater.More to the point, giant versions of Argyroneta aquatica already had official stats in AD&amp;D five years before that Dragon article saw print. They're pretty obviously the basis for the (Giant) Water Spider in the 1st edition Monster Manual (December 1977), while Dragon #67 is dated November 1982.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5001013, member: 57383"] I'm afraid not, when I said "Real-world raft spiders are venomous, like [I][B]almost all[/B][/I] spiders" I meant it. Like so much in life there are exceptions. The family [B]Uloboridae[/B] includes spiders that have lost their venom glands. It seems quite clear to me it's meant to be a [I]Dolomedes[/I] type "fishing spider". Diving bell spiders don't run across the water as described, indeed most live their whole lives underwater. More to the point, giant versions of [I]Argyroneta aquatica[/I] already had official stats in AD&D five years before that [B][I]Dragon [/I][/B]article saw print. They're pretty obviously the basis for the (Giant) Water Spider in the 1st edition [I][B]Monster Manual[/B][/I] (December 1977), while [I][B]Dragon #67[/B][/I] is dated November 1982. [/QUOTE]

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