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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6317352" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well the fact that the SRD Toad has it proves that the Amphibious special quality doesn't require the Aquatic subtype.How about we use the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/merfolk.htm" target="_blank">Merfolk's</a> description of that special ability, since it makes no mention of the Aquatic trait? Amphibious (Ex): <s>Merfolk</s> Rough-skinned newts can breathe&nbsp; both air and water, although they rarely travel more than a few feet&nbsp; from the water’s edge.Looking for precedents, I couldn't find any Frog, Toad or Newt with the Aquatic subtype in the Creature Catalog, SRD or Oriental Adventures (the latter source contains a few Giant Frogs &amp; Toads).Then again, the SRD Toad was the only Frog, Toad or Newt I could find with the Amphibious SQ. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />The closest to an Aquatic + Amphibious amphibian-like creature I could find was the Froghemoth from Dungeon #128 - but that's hardly a good precedent for a real world animal!I'll update the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?260747-Converting-quot-Real-World-quot-Animals-and-Vermin&amp;p=6310588&amp;viewfull=1#post6310588" target="_blank">Rough-Skinned Newt Working Draft</a> with that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6317352, member: 57383"] Well the fact that the SRD Toad has it proves that the Amphibious special quality doesn't require the Aquatic subtype. How about we use the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/merfolk.htm"][B]Merfolk's[/B][/URL] description of that special ability, since it makes no mention of the Aquatic trait? [B] Amphibious (Ex):[/B] [S]Merfolk[/S] Rough-skinned newts can breathe both air and water, although they rarely travel more than a few feet from the water’s edge. Looking for precedents, I couldn't find any Frog, Toad or Newt with the Aquatic subtype in the Creature Catalog, SRD or Oriental Adventures (the latter source contains a few Giant Frogs & Toads). Then again, the SRD Toad was the only Frog, Toad or Newt I could find with the Amphibious SQ. :erm: The closest to an Aquatic + Amphibious amphibian-like creature I could find was the Froghemoth from [I]Dungeon #128[/I] - but that's hardly a good precedent for a real world animal! I'll update the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?260747-Converting-quot-Real-World-quot-Animals-and-Vermin&p=6310588&viewfull=1#post6310588"][B]Rough-Skinned Newt Working Draft[/B][/URL] with that. [/QUOTE]

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