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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4952674" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Yes, there's the general stat-block at the beginning for a start. At the very least we'll want to change their Environment (warm deserts and underground?) and alignment (Usually Chaotic Good?).</p><p></p><p>They appear to have a particular fondness for gems, so I think we should tweak the Treasure to reflect that - double standard plus double goods (gems & jewellery only)?</p><p></p><p>That gives me an idea. I like the notion of making its AC's deflection bonus equal to its Cha bonus, like a Demon Drake's Unearthly Grace. Let's see how that works out in practice:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Wyrmling</strong>-- (Tiny) AC 17 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +0, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Very Young</strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 18 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +1, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Young</strong>----- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 18 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +1, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Juvenile-- </strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 19 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +2, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Young Adult</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">Tiny) AC 19 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +2, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Adult</strong>---- (</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 19 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +3, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Mature</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">--- (Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 20 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +3, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Old------ </strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 21 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +4, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Very Old</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">- (Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 21 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +4, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Ancient</strong>-- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 22 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +5, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Wyrm</strong>----- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 23 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +5, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+4)</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong> Great Wyrm</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 24 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +6, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+4)</span></p><p></p><p>That's not that far off from the original version, but the AC gets a bit higher at the top end. We could drop the NA to compensate:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Wyrmling</strong>-- (Tiny) AC 17 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +0, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Very Young</strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 18 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +1, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Young</strong>----- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 18 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +1, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Juvenile-- </strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(T</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">iny) AC 19 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +2, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Young Adult</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">Tiny) AC 19 (size +2</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +2, Dex +4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+1)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Adult</strong>---- (</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 19 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +3, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Mature</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">--- (Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 19 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +3, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Old------ </strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 20 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +4, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Very Old</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">- (Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 20 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +4, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Ancient</strong>-- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 21 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +5, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+2)</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong>Wyrm</strong>----- </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 21 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +5, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><strong> Great Wyrm</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(Sm</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">all) AC 22 (size +1</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, deflection +6, Dex +3</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">, NA+3)</span></p><p></p><p>Hmm, that looks OK to me. What do you guys think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4952674, member: 57383"] Yes, there's the general stat-block at the beginning for a start. At the very least we'll want to change their Environment (warm deserts and underground?) and alignment (Usually Chaotic Good?). They appear to have a particular fondness for gems, so I think we should tweak the Treasure to reflect that - double standard plus double goods (gems & jewellery only)? That gives me an idea. I like the notion of making its AC's deflection bonus equal to its Cha bonus, like a Demon Drake's Unearthly Grace. Let's see how that works out in practice: [FONT=Courier New][B]Wyrmling[/B]-- (Tiny) AC 17 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +0, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1) [B]Very Young[/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 18 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +1, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Young[/B]----- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 18 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +1, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Juvenile-- [/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 19 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +2, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Young Adult[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]([/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Tiny) AC 19 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +2, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B]Adult[/B]---- ([/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 19 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +3, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Mature[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]--- (Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 20 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +3, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Old------ [/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 21 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +4, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Very Old[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]- (Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 21 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +4, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Ancient[/B]-- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 22 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +5, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Wyrm[/B]----- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 23 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +5, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+4)[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][B] Great Wyrm[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 24 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +6, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+4)[/FONT] That's not that far off from the original version, but the AC gets a bit higher at the top end. We could drop the NA to compensate: [FONT=Courier New][B]Wyrmling[/B]-- (Tiny) AC 17 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +0, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1) [B]Very Young[/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 18 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +1, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Young[/B]----- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 18 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +1, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Juvenile-- [/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](T[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]iny) AC 19 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +2, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Young Adult[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]([/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Tiny) AC 19 (size +2[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +2, Dex +4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+1)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B]Adult[/B]---- ([/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 19 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +3, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Mature[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]--- (Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 19 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +3, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Old------ [/B] [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 20 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +4, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New] [B]Very Old[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New]- (Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 20 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +4, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Ancient[/B]-- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 21 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +5, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+2)[/FONT][FONT=Courier New][B] Wyrm[/B]----- [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 21 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +5, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][B] Great Wyrm[/B][/FONT][FONT=Courier New](Sm[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]all) AC 22 (size +1[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], deflection +6, Dex +3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New], NA+3)[/FONT] Hmm, that looks OK to me. What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]
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