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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5119002" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Well I'd be OK with making them dragons with age categories. It's not like they have that many other abilities to complicate them.</p><p></p><p>Oh why not, this is the "True Dragon" thread, after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Now the original had a base of 12 HD and is 50' long. That's the same HD base as a 2E Black Dragon or Brass Dragon, both of which are 30' long. </p><p>The extra 20' can easily be handwaved away because these are "winged serpents rather than a giant winged lizard".</p><p></p><p>That HD base suggests their physical stats could resemble a Black Dragon, while their Int of 8-9 suggests their mental stats are somewhere between a Black Dragon and a White.</p><p></p><p>They have an AC three points higher than a Black or Brass dragon. Since they resemble giant snakes, how about giving them a Dex of 15 or 17 like a Monstrous Viper?</p><p></p><p>That would make something like:</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">Age------Hit-Dice-----Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha-Armour</span></strong> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">01--T---4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+4</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">(30)-----10--17--13---7--12---6 </span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">+3NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">02--S---7</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">5(52)-----12--17--13---7--12---6 +6</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">03--M--10</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">20(85)----14--17--15---9--12---6 +9</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">04--M--13</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">26(110)---16--17--15---9--12---8 +12</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">05--L--16</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">48(152)---18--17--17--11--12--10 +15</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">06--L--19</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">76(199)---22--17--19--11--12--12 +18</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">07--H-22</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">110(253)---26--15--21--13--14--12 +21</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">08--H-25</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">125(287)---28--15--21--13--14--12 +24</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">09--H-28</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">168(350)---30--15--23--15--16--14 +27</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">10--H-31</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">186(387)---32--15--23--15--16--14 +30</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">11--G-34</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">d12+</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">238(459)---34--15--25--17--16--16 +33</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">12--G-37d12+296(536)---36--15--27--19--18--18 +36</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">NA</span></p><p></p><p>What thinks thee?</p><p></p><p>Note: You may notice I've lowered the Strength a point and upped the Wisdom a point, as a homage to the Viper having a base Str 10, Wis 12.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5119002, member: 57383"] Well I'd be OK with making them dragons with age categories. It's not like they have that many other abilities to complicate them. Oh why not, this is the "True Dragon" thread, after all. :) Now the original had a base of 12 HD and is 50' long. That's the same HD base as a 2E Black Dragon or Brass Dragon, both of which are 30' long. The extra 20' can easily be handwaved away because these are "winged serpents rather than a giant winged lizard". That HD base suggests their physical stats could resemble a Black Dragon, while their Int of 8-9 suggests their mental stats are somewhere between a Black Dragon and a White. They have an AC three points higher than a Black or Brass dragon. Since they resemble giant snakes, how about giving them a Dex of 15 or 17 like a Monstrous Viper? That would make something like: [B] [FONT=Courier New]Age------Hit-Dice-----Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha-Armour[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Courier New]01--T---4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+4[/FONT][FONT=Courier New](30)-----10--17--13---7--12---6 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]+3NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]02--S---7[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]5(52)-----12--17--13---7--12---6 +6[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]03--M--10[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]20(85)----14--17--15---9--12---6 +9[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]04--M--13[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]26(110)---16--17--15---9--12---8 +12[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]05--L--16[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]48(152)---18--17--17--11--12--10 +15[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]06--L--19[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]76(199)---22--17--19--11--12--12 +18[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]07--H-22[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]110(253)---26--15--21--13--14--12 +21[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]08--H-25[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]125(287)---28--15--21--13--14--12 +24[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]09--H-28[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]168(350)---30--15--23--15--16--14 +27[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]10--H-31[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]186(387)---32--15--23--15--16--14 +30[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]11--G-34[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]d12+[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]238(459)---34--15--25--17--16--16 +33[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]12--G-37d12+296(536)---36--15--27--19--18--18 +36[/FONT][FONT=Courier New]NA[/FONT] What thinks thee? Note: You may notice I've lowered the Strength a point and upped the Wisdom a point, as a homage to the Viper having a base Str 10, Wis 12. [/QUOTE]
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