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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5977152" data-attributes="member: 57383">In 3E it's usually Wisdom that's associated with insanity, not Intelligence.How about we give them a Derro's racial Madness trait?Madness (Ex): Derro use their Charisma modifier on Will saves instead of their Wisdom modifier, and have immunity to confusion and insanity effects. A derro cannot be restored to sanity by any means short of a miracle or wish spell.*The racial madness of the derro provides a +6 bonus to their Charisma scores and a -6 penalty to their Wisdom scores. A derro restored to sanity gains 6 points of Wisdom and loses 6 points of Charisma. Well it's easy enough saying the template converts them to a Cold subtype dragon with a frosty breath weapon.Even an AD&amp;D Blue Dragon isn't smart enough. They are Very intelligent (Int 11-12) in AD&amp;D.Hmm, we don't have to restrict ourselves to Chromatic dragons. The template could turn the base dragon evil as well as insane. The template has to change the alignment anyway, assuming we use an SRD dragon and want to keep the Albino Wyrm's Neutral Evil alignment.How about a Copper Dragon? They have &quot;High intelligence&quot; too, are ever so slightly larger &amp; tougher than an Albino Wyrm, and have the Earth subtype in their 3E incarnation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5977152, member: 57383"] In 3E it's usually Wisdom that's associated with insanity, not Intelligence. How about we give them a Derro's racial Madness trait? [B]Madness (Ex):[/B] Derro use their Charisma modifier on Will saves instead of their Wisdom modifier, and have immunity to confusion and insanity effects. A derro cannot be restored to sanity by any means short of a [I]miracle[/I] or [I]wish[/I] spell. *The racial madness of the derro provides a +6 bonus to their Charisma scores and a -6 penalty to their Wisdom scores. A derro restored to sanity gains 6 points of Wisdom and loses 6 points of Charisma. Well it's easy enough saying the template converts them to a Cold subtype dragon with a frosty breath weapon. Even an AD&D Blue Dragon isn't smart enough. They are Very intelligent (Int 11-12) in AD&D. Hmm, we don't have to restrict ourselves to [I]Chromatic[/I] dragons. The template could turn the base dragon evil as well as insane. The template has to change the alignment anyway, assuming we use an SRD dragon and want to keep the Albino Wyrm's Neutral Evil alignment. How about a Copper Dragon? They have "High intelligence" too, are ever so slightly larger & tougher than an Albino Wyrm, and have the Earth subtype in their 3E incarnation. [/QUOTE]

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