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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6226053" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p><strong>Will The Dragons Rise Again?</strong></p><p></p><p>I've been reading throught some monster books and I'm thinking we're missing few dragons, mainly due to their being multiple dragons with the same name.</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Sand Dragon</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #daa520"><strong>AD&D Sand Dragon</strong></span></span> from <strong><em>Dragon #134</em> (1988)</strong></p><p>This is not the same as the 3.5E Sand Dragon in <em>Sandstorm</em> (2005). The Dragon version is smarter, less hostile, cannot fly, and has a breath weapon <em>that turns any living thing into sand</em>.</p><p></p><p>I guess we could call it the "Dune Dragon" to distinguish it from the standard Sand Dragon.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">BECMI Gemstone Dragons</span></strong></p><p>There are six "gemstone dragons" in BECMI - amber/brown, crystal, jade, onyx, ruby, sapphire. The Crystalline, Jade, Onyx, and Ruby Dragons are covered, but the remaining two could do with revisiting.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffd700"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>BECMI Amber/Brown Dragon</strong></span></span> from <strong><em>D&D Master Set</em> (1985)</strong></p><p>This dragon is listed in the AD&D2E <em>Mystara Monstrous Compendium</em> (1994) as using the 2E Monster Manual Brown Dragon's stats, but the BECMI original is quite different. It's not a desert-dwelling burrower like the <em>MM</em> Brown Dragon, but lives in all terrains and is basically a Chaotic (e.g. "Evil") counterpart of a Gold Dragon. It has two breath weapons, the flesh-rotting breath of a Jade Dragon plus the object-melting breath of a Ruby Dragon.</p><p></p><p>They're a lot more powerful than a standard Brown, in other words.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>BECMI Sapphire Dragon</strong></span></span> from <strong><em>D&D Master Set</em> (1985)</strong></p><p>In BECMI, a Sapphire Dragon is a Lawful (e.g. "Good") counterpart of a Blue Dragon. They have a breath weapon that vaporizes opponents. Vaporizes as in turns the target into an <em>invisible gaseous form</em>. There's no mention of this Vaporisation having a duration...</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Dragon Update Issues</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #00ff00"><strong>Jade Dragons</strong></span></span> from the <em>D&D Master Set</em> (1985) have a breath weapon caused a horrible rotting disease as well as damage. Our Enworld conversion just does the damage. Should we update it?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Ruby Dragons</strong></span></span> from the <em>D&D Master Set</em> (1985) have a breath weapon that melts inanimate objects as well as doing fire damage. Our Enworld conversion just has fire damage plus a 'burn' effect like a Fire Elemental. Should we update it?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Faerûnian Yellow Dragons</strong></span></span> from the <em>Draconomicon</em> (1990) have a breath weapon that can blind as well as causing damage. Our Enworld conversion just does damage. Also, this dragon has the "signature trick" of creating a sinkhole pit trap like an ant lion, which we mention in the Combat description but don't give any rules for. Should we update it?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Unique Dragons</strong></span></p><p>We've also got a few one-of-a-kind dragons that don't have Enworld conversions.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>The Mystaran Dragon Rulers</strong></span><strong> (Moon Dragon, Sun Dragon, Star Dragon, and The Great Dragon)</strong> from the <em>D&D Master Set</em> (1985) don't have Enworld or "official" conversions.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Ahi the Steel Dragon</strong></span> from <em>Dragon #62</em> (1983) doesn't have an Enworld conversion, although his evil twin <strong>Rahab the Grey Dragon</strong> does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6226053, member: 57383"] [b]Will The Dragons Rise Again?[/b] I've been reading throught some monster books and I'm thinking we're missing few dragons, mainly due to their being multiple dragons with the same name. [SIZE=3] [SIZE=4][B]Sand Dragon[/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=#daa520][B]AD&D Sand Dragon[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] from [B][I]Dragon #134[/I] (1988)[/B] This is not the same as the 3.5E Sand Dragon in [I]Sandstorm[/I] (2005). The Dragon version is smarter, less hostile, cannot fly, and has a breath weapon [I]that turns any living thing into sand[/I]. I guess we could call it the "Dune Dragon" to distinguish it from the standard Sand Dragon. [B][SIZE=4]BECMI Gemstone Dragons[/SIZE][/B] There are six "gemstone dragons" in BECMI - amber/brown, crystal, jade, onyx, ruby, sapphire. The Crystalline, Jade, Onyx, and Ruby Dragons are covered, but the remaining two could do with revisiting. [COLOR=#ffd700][SIZE=3][B]BECMI Amber/Brown Dragon[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] from [B][I]D&D Master Set[/I] (1985)[/B] This dragon is listed in the AD&D2E [I]Mystara Monstrous Compendium[/I] (1994) as using the 2E Monster Manual Brown Dragon's stats, but the BECMI original is quite different. It's not a desert-dwelling burrower like the [I]MM[/I] Brown Dragon, but lives in all terrains and is basically a Chaotic (e.g. "Evil") counterpart of a Gold Dragon. It has two breath weapons, the flesh-rotting breath of a Jade Dragon plus the object-melting breath of a Ruby Dragon. They're a lot more powerful than a standard Brown, in other words. [COLOR=#00ffff][SIZE=3][B]BECMI Sapphire Dragon[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] from [B][I]D&D Master Set[/I] (1985)[/B] In BECMI, a Sapphire Dragon is a Lawful (e.g. "Good") counterpart of a Blue Dragon. They have a breath weapon that vaporizes opponents. Vaporizes as in turns the target into an [I]invisible gaseous form[/I]. There's no mention of this Vaporisation having a duration... [B][SIZE=4]Dragon Update Issues[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#00ff00][B]Jade Dragons[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] from the [I]D&D Master Set[/I] (1985) have a breath weapon caused a horrible rotting disease as well as damage. Our Enworld conversion just does the damage. Should we update it? [COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=3][B]Ruby Dragons[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] from the [I]D&D Master Set[/I] (1985) have a breath weapon that melts inanimate objects as well as doing fire damage. Our Enworld conversion just has fire damage plus a 'burn' effect like a Fire Elemental. Should we update it? [COLOR=#ffff00][SIZE=3][B]Faerûnian Yellow Dragons[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] from the [I]Draconomicon[/I] (1990) have a breath weapon that can blind as well as causing damage. Our Enworld conversion just does damage. Also, this dragon has the "signature trick" of creating a sinkhole pit trap like an ant lion, which we mention in the Combat description but don't give any rules for. Should we update it? [SIZE=4][B]Unique Dragons[/B][/SIZE] We've also got a few one-of-a-kind dragons that don't have Enworld conversions. [SIZE=3][B]The Mystaran Dragon Rulers[/B][/SIZE][B] (Moon Dragon, Sun Dragon, Star Dragon, and The Great Dragon)[/B] from the [I]D&D Master Set[/I] (1985) don't have Enworld or "official" conversions. [SIZE=3][B]Ahi the Steel Dragon[/B][/SIZE] from [I]Dragon #62[/I] (1983) doesn't have an Enworld conversion, although his evil twin [B]Rahab the Grey Dragon[/B] does. [/QUOTE]
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