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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7477084" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I would have gone for every round but will accept every 1d2 rounds.</p><p></p><p>Daily use restrictions were a standard feature of BECMI/1E dragons that 3E dropped entirely in favour of the "every X rounds" frequency.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking the dragon would be able to use the breath weapons of every dragon of its "class" but once it had used a particular dragon's breath weapon it couldn't use it again for, say, a minute. </p><p></p><p>We ought to provide a list of the breath weapons of the "standard" and Mystaran dragons of its alignment for the sake of convenience. In some cases it will have multiple dragons who breathe the same energy type (i.e. the Brass Dragon, Mystaran Amber Dragon and Red Dragon are all chaotic and can breathe fire), so the chaotic dragon could breathe fire three times in a minute.</p><p></p><p>We'll need to decide on what to use as the Neutral Dragons - in BECMI the Blue and White Dragons are neutral so I <em>suppose</em> we could do something with that with a note of "These dragons are identical to the SRD versions except the Mystaran blue dragon's alignment is always lawful neutral and the Mystaran white dragon is always chaotic neutral".</p><p></p><p>I'd be more inclined to use either the "Dragon, Neutrals" who appeared in various AD&D 2E Monstrous Compendiums of the Gem Dragons from AD&D's <em>Dragon #37</em> and the 3E <em>Monster Manual II</em> (who were originally invented to fill the "Neutral Dragons" hole).</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined towards the MCA Neutral Dragons since (a) we have those in the CC and (b) the Gem Dragons are psionic casters.</p><p></p><p>That would make the dragon list as follows:</p><p></p><p><strong>Chaotic Dragons:</strong> <em>SRD's</em> Black, Brass, Copper, Red, White and <em>BECMI's</em> Mystaran Amber, Brown. </p><p></p><p><strong>Neutral Dragons:</strong> <em>BECMI's</em> Mystaran Jade, Mystaran Onyx plus others to be determined (<span style="color: #00ff00"><em>Neutral's</em> Amber, Jacinth, Jade (Pearl), Moonstone, Pearl</span> OR <span style="color: #40e0d0"><em>Gem's</em> Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, Topaz</span>)</p><p></p><p><strong>Lawful Dragons:</strong> <em>SRD's</em> Blue, Bronze, Green, Gold, Silver and <em>BECMI's</em> Mystaran Crystalline Dragon, Mystaran Ruby, Mystaran Sapphire.</p><p></p><p>That's seven Chaotic Dragons, seven Neutral Dragons and eight Lawful Dragons. If the frequency rate is once every 1d2 rounds that's enough for them to be very unlikely to run out of options if they have a "wait a minute" refresh rate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of that seems reasonable, with the following exceptions.</p><p></p><p>I'd give them sorcerer casting AND cleric casting since the official 3E versions of Bahamut Tiamat have that:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The immunity to dragon control magical items is presumably a reference to things like the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/artifacts.htm#theOrbsofDragonkind" target="_blank">Orbs of Dragonkind</a>.</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to generalize the immunities to all charm, hold, paralysis, sleep, slow, death, disintegration, and poison effects. </p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I was tempted to suggest generalizing the sleep and hold immunity to immunity to compulsion effects, i.e. <em>antipathy</em>, <em>binding</em>, <em>confusion</em>, <em>crushing despair</em>, <em>daze</em>, <em>demand</em>, <em>dominate</em>, <em>feeblemind</em>, <em>geas</em>, <em>heroism</em>, <em>hideous laughter</em>, <em>hold</em>, <em>hypnotism</em>, <em>insanity</em>, <em>irresistible dance</em>, <em>mind fog</em>, <em>power word</em> (<em>blind</em>, <em>kill</em>, <em>stun</em>), <em>rage</em>, <em>sleep</em>, <em>suggestion</em>, <em>symbol</em> (<em>insanity</em>, <em>sleep</em>, <em>stunning</em> or <em>persuasion</em>), <em>sympathy</em>, <em>touch of idiocy</em>. However, if we go that far it's almost the same as making it immune to enchantment or mind-affecting effects so I decided that was going a bit far. Although perhaps we could reserve immunity to compulsion/enchantment/mind-affecting for the Supreme Dragon?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7477084, member: 57383"] I would have gone for every round but will accept every 1d2 rounds. Daily use restrictions were a standard feature of BECMI/1E dragons that 3E dropped entirely in favour of the "every X rounds" frequency. I was thinking the dragon would be able to use the breath weapons of every dragon of its "class" but once it had used a particular dragon's breath weapon it couldn't use it again for, say, a minute. We ought to provide a list of the breath weapons of the "standard" and Mystaran dragons of its alignment for the sake of convenience. In some cases it will have multiple dragons who breathe the same energy type (i.e. the Brass Dragon, Mystaran Amber Dragon and Red Dragon are all chaotic and can breathe fire), so the chaotic dragon could breathe fire three times in a minute. We'll need to decide on what to use as the Neutral Dragons - in BECMI the Blue and White Dragons are neutral so I [I]suppose[/I] we could do something with that with a note of "These dragons are identical to the SRD versions except the Mystaran blue dragon's alignment is always lawful neutral and the Mystaran white dragon is always chaotic neutral". I'd be more inclined to use either the "Dragon, Neutrals" who appeared in various AD&D 2E Monstrous Compendiums of the Gem Dragons from AD&D's [I]Dragon #37[/I] and the 3E [I]Monster Manual II[/I] (who were originally invented to fill the "Neutral Dragons" hole). I'm inclined towards the MCA Neutral Dragons since (a) we have those in the CC and (b) the Gem Dragons are psionic casters. That would make the dragon list as follows: [B]Chaotic Dragons:[/B] [I]SRD's[/I] Black, Brass, Copper, Red, White and [I]BECMI's[/I] Mystaran Amber, Brown. [B]Neutral Dragons:[/B] [I]BECMI's[/I] Mystaran Jade, Mystaran Onyx plus others to be determined ([COLOR=#00ff00][I]Neutral's[/I] Amber, Jacinth, Jade (Pearl), Moonstone, Pearl[/COLOR] OR [COLOR=#40e0d0][I]Gem's[/I] Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, Topaz[/COLOR]) [B]Lawful Dragons:[/B] [I]SRD's[/I] Blue, Bronze, Green, Gold, Silver and [I]BECMI's[/I] Mystaran Crystalline Dragon, Mystaran Ruby, Mystaran Sapphire. That's seven Chaotic Dragons, seven Neutral Dragons and eight Lawful Dragons. If the frequency rate is once every 1d2 rounds that's enough for them to be very unlikely to run out of options if they have a "wait a minute" refresh rate. Most of that seems reasonable, with the following exceptions. I'd give them sorcerer casting AND cleric casting since the official 3E versions of Bahamut Tiamat have that: The immunity to dragon control magical items is presumably a reference to things like the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/artifacts.htm#theOrbsofDragonkind"]Orbs of Dragonkind[/URL]. I'm inclined to generalize the immunities to all charm, hold, paralysis, sleep, slow, death, disintegration, and poison effects. Incidentally, I was tempted to suggest generalizing the sleep and hold immunity to immunity to compulsion effects, i.e. [I]antipathy[/I], [I]binding[/I], [I]confusion[/I], [I]crushing despair[/I], [I]daze[/I], [I]demand[/I], [I]dominate[/I], [I]feeblemind[/I], [I]geas[/I], [I]heroism[/I], [I]hideous laughter[/I], [I]hold[/I], [I]hypnotism[/I], [I]insanity[/I], [I]irresistible dance[/I], [I]mind fog[/I], [I]power word[/I] ([I]blind[/I], [I]kill[/I], [I]stun[/I]), [I]rage[/I], [I]sleep[/I], [I]suggestion[/I], [I]symbol[/I] ([I]insanity[/I], [I]sleep[/I], [I]stunning[/I] or [I]persuasion[/I]), [I]sympathy[/I], [I]touch of idiocy[/I]. However, if we go that far it's almost the same as making it immune to enchantment or mind-affecting effects so I decided that was going a bit far. Although perhaps we could reserve immunity to compulsion/enchantment/mind-affecting for the Supreme Dragon? [/QUOTE]
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