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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7491090" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>So shall we get started on the first one: Pearl the Moon Dragon.</p><p></p><p>Colossal Dragon (Chaotic, Extraplanar) seems pretty obvious.</p><p></p><p>Double the original 24 Hit Dice to 48 to put her in the same region as 49 HD of the 3E Manual of the Plane's Tiamat? Maybe just add 24 HD to the other Mystaran Dragon Rulers when we get around to them, then the Diamond the Star Dragon will have 54 Hit Dice, which is close to the <em>MoP's</em> Bahamut's who has 53 HD. Oh, and it'll give 51 Hit Dice to Opal the Sun Dragon which puts her close to the WotC Sardior's 52 HD.</p><p></p><p>That seems a decent match.</p><p></p><p>As for Armour Class, Pearl has AC –8. The various BECMI/AD&D versions of Tiamat have from AC 0 (<em>Monster Manual</em>) to AC –15 (<em>Polyhedron #73</em>). The latter also has 60 Hit Dice (!).</p><p></p><p>The 3E <em>MotP</em> Tiamat has AC 50 (touch 2, flat-footed 50) so seems to just have natural armour +48.</p><p></p><p>It'd be simplest to just to give Moon the same +48NA but I'm tempted to give her +40 NA and +8 from some other source, like a high Dexterity, deflection, insight, or a divine rank bonus.</p><p></p><p>Checking the 3E Sardior, he has Armor Class 75 (-8 size, +6 Dex, +8 divine, +48 natural, +11 deflection); touch 27; flat-footed 69 which seems a bit overboard.</p><p></p><p>We are aiming for a version without divine ranks aren't we, to keep it par with the <em>Manual of the Planes</em> Bahamut and Tiamat stats?</p><p></p><p>The Aligned Dragon Rulers have an impressive 180' land speed and fly at 420', so I'd go for 60 ft., fly 300 ft. (poor) like the MotP <em>Bahamut</em>.</p><p></p><p>Ability scores I'm not so certain of. Similar dragons have:</p><p></p><p><strong>Bahamut:</strong> Str 53, Dex 10, Con 39, Int 35, Wis 36, Cha 35</p><p><strong>Tiamat:</strong> Str 49, Dex 10, Con 35, Int 28, Wis 25, Cha 28</p><p><strong>Sardior:</strong> Str 49, Dex 22, Con 37, Int 33, Wis 34, Cha 33</p><p></p><p>Hurr… Perhaps Str 48, Dex 10, Con 35, Int 31, Wis 32, Cha 31?</p><p></p><p>I think that's all we need to decide before I post a Working Draft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7491090, member: 57383"] So shall we get started on the first one: Pearl the Moon Dragon. Colossal Dragon (Chaotic, Extraplanar) seems pretty obvious. Double the original 24 Hit Dice to 48 to put her in the same region as 49 HD of the 3E Manual of the Plane's Tiamat? Maybe just add 24 HD to the other Mystaran Dragon Rulers when we get around to them, then the Diamond the Star Dragon will have 54 Hit Dice, which is close to the [I]MoP's[/I] Bahamut's who has 53 HD. Oh, and it'll give 51 Hit Dice to Opal the Sun Dragon which puts her close to the WotC Sardior's 52 HD. That seems a decent match. As for Armour Class, Pearl has AC –8. The various BECMI/AD&D versions of Tiamat have from AC 0 ([I]Monster Manual[/I]) to AC –15 ([I]Polyhedron #73[/I]). The latter also has 60 Hit Dice (!). The 3E [I]MotP[/I] Tiamat has AC 50 (touch 2, flat-footed 50) so seems to just have natural armour +48. It'd be simplest to just to give Moon the same +48NA but I'm tempted to give her +40 NA and +8 from some other source, like a high Dexterity, deflection, insight, or a divine rank bonus. Checking the 3E Sardior, he has Armor Class 75 (-8 size, +6 Dex, +8 divine, +48 natural, +11 deflection); touch 27; flat-footed 69 which seems a bit overboard. We are aiming for a version without divine ranks aren't we, to keep it par with the [I]Manual of the Planes[/I] Bahamut and Tiamat stats? The Aligned Dragon Rulers have an impressive 180' land speed and fly at 420', so I'd go for 60 ft., fly 300 ft. (poor) like the MotP [I]Bahamut[/I]. Ability scores I'm not so certain of. Similar dragons have: [B]Bahamut:[/B] Str 53, Dex 10, Con 39, Int 35, Wis 36, Cha 35 [B]Tiamat:[/B] Str 49, Dex 10, Con 35, Int 28, Wis 25, Cha 28 [B]Sardior:[/B] Str 49, Dex 22, Con 37, Int 33, Wis 34, Cha 33 Hurr… Perhaps Str 48, Dex 10, Con 35, Int 31, Wis 32, Cha 31? I think that's all we need to decide before I post a Working Draft. [/QUOTE]
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