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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 6907561" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>Over the years, there have been various "stat yourself" methods. They usually ask a bunch of questions - how much can you bench press? Do you smoke? What level of education did you reach? That sort of thing. You can probably Google a bunch of them.</p><p></p><p>This is just a bit of fun; it's not going to be used in a doctor's surgery or anything. The more fun tests we can add to each attribute, the more fun. Generally, for each ability, do all the test and average the result; if you don't know any of the values, just leave them out (but remember you did so when averaging the result). </p><p></p><p>Bounded accuracy changes things a little, so I figured why not revisit the concept for D&D 5E? For now, I'm happy to just keep it to ability scores. Let's start with Strength.</p><p></p><p><strong>[h=4]STRENGTH[/h]</strong></p><p>I'm using the average of bench press, pushups, deadlifts, and standing long jump (and include a way to determine your expected bench press if, like me, you don't know it). There are, of course, many ways to test strength, and, indeed, many interpretations of what strength is. I've chosen some which are fairly easy to determine - I doubt many people know how many lbs of weight they can carry on a long distance SAS march, so we'll go with things folks have a reasonable chance of knowing. If you don't know any, just leave it out and take the average of the things you do know.</p><p></p><p><strong>Test 1: BENCH PRESS</strong></p><p></p><p>According to the core rules, your carrying capacity is STR x 15. If you know what you can bench press, divide by 15. Round down.</p><p></p><p>STR 10 x 15 = 150lb. STR 18 x 15 = 270lb.</p><p></p><p>If you don't know your bench press (I don't have a clue what mine is), the American College of Sports Medicine says: </p><p></p><p>Men who are in the age range of 20-29 years should lift 106% of their totally body weight for 50th percentile, 122% for 70th percentile, and for 90th percentile they must lift 148%. For men who are between 30-39 years of age, 93% for 50th percentile, 104% for 70th percentile, and 124% for 90th percentile. Men who are between 40-49 years of age should lift 88% for 50th percentile, 93% for 70th percentile and 110% for 90thpercentile. Men between 50-59 years of age should lift 75% for 50th, 84% for 70th and 97% for 90th percentile.</p><p></p><p>Given below are some examples for men's average bench press based on the age and the body weight. You can calculate yours according to what has been discussed above.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[TABLE="width: 100%"]</p><p>[TR="class: firstRow"]</p><p>[TD]<strong>Age</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 240"]<strong>Body Weight</strong><strong> (Pounds)</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 257"]<strong>Average Bench Press</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"]</p><p>[TD="width: 81"]<strong>24</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 240"]170[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 257"]180[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="width: 81"]<strong>33</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 240"]180[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 257"]167[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"]</p><p>[TD="width: 81"]<strong>46</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 240"]183[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 257"]161[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="width: 81"]<strong>53</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 240"]187[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 257"]140[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p></p><p>Women from 20 to 29 years of age should lift 65% of their body weight for 50thpercentile, 74% for 70th percentile and 90% for 90th percentile. Women from 30 to 39 years of age should lift 57% of their body weight for 50th percentile, 63% for 70thpercentile, and 76% for 90th percentile. Women from 40 to 49 years of age should lift 52% of their body weight for 50th percentile, 57% for 70th percentile and 71% for 90thpercentile. Women from 50 to 59 years of age should lift 46% for 50th percentile, 52% for 70th percentile, and 61% for 90th percentile.</p><p><span style="color: #444444"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #444444"><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"></span></span></p><p>[TABLE="width: 100%"]</p><p>[TR="class: firstRow"]</p><p>[TD]<strong>Age</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 233"]<strong>Body Weight</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 264"]<strong>Average Bench Press</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"]</p><p>[TD="width: 134"]<strong>27</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 235"]130[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 264"]84[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="width: 134"]<strong>34</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 235"]145[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 264"]82[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"]</p><p>[TD="width: 134"]<strong>48</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 235"]150[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 264"]78[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="width: 134"]<strong>55</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 235"]160[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 264"]73[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p>This is't very exact, of course. You can be lighter and stronger or heavier and weaker, but it's a start.</p><p></p><p>In theory, my STR therefore is 11 using the average charts. </p><p></p><p><strong>TEST 2: PUSH UPS</strong></p><p></p><p>The next test is to see how many (good form) pushups you can do. A big of Googling suggests that the average man can do 27; 36 is considered excellent; US military apparently requires 45 to graduate, with 75 being the high end target.</p><p></p><p>If 27 is STR 10.5 (average), it's close enough to multiplying by 2.5. Find how many pushups you can do and divide by 2.5</p><p></p><p>I can do 40, which gives me STR 16.</p><p></p><p><strong>TEST 3: STANDING LONG JUMP</strong></p><p></p><p>Another of measuring strength, <a href="http://www.active.com/fitness/articles/7-ways-to-test-your-strength" target="_blank">according to this website</a>. When taking multiple values, remember to average them - Go jump! An average standing long jump is 5 feet, and the world record is about 12 feet. That's easy; if 5 feet is 10.5, then just double your standing long jump (in feet). </p><p></p><p>I can jump 6', give or take. That gives me STR 12.</p><p></p><p><strong>TEST 4: DEADLIFT</strong></p><p>Don't worry if you don't know this one. Just average the scores you do know, and leave out the ones you don't.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The average person can deadlift about 120% of their bodyweight. Let's call that 200lb average. The world record is 1,014.1lb (let's call that 1,000lb)</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">To determine your STR, take your deadlift, deduct 200lb, divide by 80, add 10.... </span><span style="color: #000000">(deadlift - 200)/80 +10.</span></p><p></p><p><strong>YOUR FINALLY TALLY</strong></p><p></p><p>Take your four STR scores (one from each test) and find the average. Round down. </p><p></p><p><strong>I have three different values for STR: 11, 16, and 12 (I have no idea what I can deadlift so left that one out</strong>)<strong>. The average, and my final STR score, is 13. </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 6907561, member: 1"] Over the years, there have been various "stat yourself" methods. They usually ask a bunch of questions - how much can you bench press? Do you smoke? What level of education did you reach? That sort of thing. You can probably Google a bunch of them. This is just a bit of fun; it's not going to be used in a doctor's surgery or anything. The more fun tests we can add to each attribute, the more fun. Generally, for each ability, do all the test and average the result; if you don't know any of the values, just leave them out (but remember you did so when averaging the result). Bounded accuracy changes things a little, so I figured why not revisit the concept for D&D 5E? For now, I'm happy to just keep it to ability scores. Let's start with Strength. [B][h=4]STRENGTH[/h][/B] I'm using the average of bench press, pushups, deadlifts, and standing long jump (and include a way to determine your expected bench press if, like me, you don't know it). There are, of course, many ways to test strength, and, indeed, many interpretations of what strength is. I've chosen some which are fairly easy to determine - I doubt many people know how many lbs of weight they can carry on a long distance SAS march, so we'll go with things folks have a reasonable chance of knowing. If you don't know any, just leave it out and take the average of the things you do know. [B]Test 1: BENCH PRESS[/B] According to the core rules, your carrying capacity is STR x 15. If you know what you can bench press, divide by 15. Round down. STR 10 x 15 = 150lb. STR 18 x 15 = 270lb. If you don't know your bench press (I don't have a clue what mine is), the American College of Sports Medicine says: Men who are in the age range of 20-29 years should lift 106% of their totally body weight for 50th percentile, 122% for 70th percentile, and for 90th percentile they must lift 148%. For men who are between 30-39 years of age, 93% for 50th percentile, 104% for 70th percentile, and 124% for 90th percentile. Men who are between 40-49 years of age should lift 88% for 50th percentile, 93% for 70th percentile and 110% for 90thpercentile. Men between 50-59 years of age should lift 75% for 50th, 84% for 70th and 97% for 90th percentile. Given below are some examples for men's average bench press based on the age and the body weight. You can calculate yours according to what has been discussed above. [TABLE="width: 100%"] [TR="class: firstRow"] [TD][B]Age[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 240"][B]Body Weight[/B][B] (Pounds)[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 257"][B]Average Bench Press[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"] [TD="width: 81"][B]24[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 240"]170[/TD] [TD="width: 257"]180[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 81"][B]33[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 240"]180[/TD] [TD="width: 257"]167[/TD] [/TR] [TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"] [TD="width: 81"][B]46[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 240"]183[/TD] [TD="width: 257"]161[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 81"][B]53[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 240"]187[/TD] [TD="width: 257"]140[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Women from 20 to 29 years of age should lift 65% of their body weight for 50thpercentile, 74% for 70th percentile and 90% for 90th percentile. Women from 30 to 39 years of age should lift 57% of their body weight for 50th percentile, 63% for 70thpercentile, and 76% for 90th percentile. Women from 40 to 49 years of age should lift 52% of their body weight for 50th percentile, 57% for 70th percentile and 71% for 90thpercentile. Women from 50 to 59 years of age should lift 46% for 50th percentile, 52% for 70th percentile, and 61% for 90th percentile. [COLOR=#444444][FONT=Open Sans] [/FONT][/COLOR] [TABLE="width: 100%"] [TR="class: firstRow"] [TD][B]Age[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 233"][B]Body Weight[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 264"][B]Average Bench Press[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"] [TD="width: 134"][B]27[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 235"]130[/TD] [TD="width: 264"]84[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 134"][B]34[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 235"]145[/TD] [TD="width: 264"]82[/TD] [/TR] [TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEE"] [TD="width: 134"][B]48[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 235"]150[/TD] [TD="width: 264"]78[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 134"][B]55[/B][/TD] [TD="width: 235"]160[/TD] [TD="width: 264"]73[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] This is't very exact, of course. You can be lighter and stronger or heavier and weaker, but it's a start. In theory, my STR therefore is 11 using the average charts. [B]TEST 2: PUSH UPS[/B] The next test is to see how many (good form) pushups you can do. A big of Googling suggests that the average man can do 27; 36 is considered excellent; US military apparently requires 45 to graduate, with 75 being the high end target. If 27 is STR 10.5 (average), it's close enough to multiplying by 2.5. Find how many pushups you can do and divide by 2.5 I can do 40, which gives me STR 16. [B]TEST 3: STANDING LONG JUMP[/B] Another of measuring strength, [URL="http://www.active.com/fitness/articles/7-ways-to-test-your-strength"]according to this website[/URL]. When taking multiple values, remember to average them - Go jump! An average standing long jump is 5 feet, and the world record is about 12 feet. That's easy; if 5 feet is 10.5, then just double your standing long jump (in feet). I can jump 6', give or take. That gives me STR 12. [B]TEST 4: DEADLIFT[/B] Don't worry if you don't know this one. Just average the scores you do know, and leave out the ones you don't. [COLOR=#000000]The average person can deadlift about 120% of their bodyweight. Let's call that 200lb average. The world record is 1,014.1lb (let's call that 1,000lb)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]To determine your STR, take your deadlift, deduct 200lb, divide by 80, add 10.... [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000](deadlift - 200)/80 +10.[/COLOR] [B]YOUR FINALLY TALLY[/B] Take your four STR scores (one from each test) and find the average. Round down. [B]I have three different values for STR: 11, 16, and 12 (I have no idea what I can deadlift so left that one out[/B])[B]. The average, and my final STR score, is 13. [/B] [/QUOTE]
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