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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9349260" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I really like the current 5E post-TCE Ranger design, it is probably what I play most often.  I am not a fan of the new playtest Ranger as it dialed back much of the magic thematics.In terms of archetype/stereotype Ranger and Rogue may fill a similar role, but the archtype Ranger is not what I generally play as a PC.  I play much more of an Arcane Gish with some damage, mobility and out of combat utility and the mechanics (including subclasses) support that very well.  I am also using all my feats in tier 1-3 to get more spells generally (and boosting Widsom on the half feats) to lean even further into an Arcane type Character.  Just about every Ranger I play has Shadow Touched and the ones that don't have a misty-step like option through a race or subclass have Fey Touched.I pretty much never play a "one with nature" type character even though some of the Primal Awareness free spells drive you that direction.  I treat those spells pretty much as a ribbon, but my character is thematically and mechanically much more "high magic:" that the stereotype.The current Ranger class because the Chassis and some of the subclasses let you do this very well and that is why I think it is necessary.</blockquote>