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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9361316" data-attributes="member: 23751">Correct.  Arnold was built for strength and Bruce for dexterity.  Being fast(dexterous) doesn't make him as strong(strength) as Arnold.No it doesn't all get lumped in.  The muscles used for speed are put into dex.That depends on the athletic effort. Many are dex based where Bruce is far and away superior, or con based where Bruce also has the advantage. 5e put athletics into the strength category, but has the optional rule to use alternative stats when appropriate.  I wish they'd remove the optional portion of that rule.I think the wiry speed muscles should just remain with dex.Every one of them is very big 7-8 feet tall and heavy. You know, a Powerful Build.  It's clear that the trait comes with that size range.You want a citation for the claim that the game isn't supposed to mirror the real world exactly?!</blockquote>