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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 9668073" data-attributes="member: 67296">A class in 5eD&D is two things: a concept that cannot be easily and accurately reproduced with another class, and enough variations on the said concept to allow several subclasses of its own.The two most obvious classical archetypes for rangers are the beastmaster and the wilderness hunter, which are distinct enough that it would be difficult to recreate both as a single subclass of fighter or rogue.That alone gives the ranger more identity than the barbarian IMO, which would be just as easy if not more to recreate as fighter subclass, and is even less dependant on its own subclasses in its identity.</blockquote>