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<blockquote data-quote="Flights of Fancy" data-source="post: 9669311" data-attributes="member: 7037975">Just using the core four in the PHB doesn't work, though*. The other classes have to become part of them in some fashion. For example:Fighter, add subclasses for Barbarian, Monk, and RangerCleric, add subclasses for Druid, Paladin, WarlockRogue, add subclasses for Bard, Monk, and RangerWizard, add subclasses for Artificer, Bard and SorcererSome classes, depending on concept/role, such as spell-less Ranger vs magic Ranger vs. whatever Ranger might fall under one of the four core classes or another.I know we've had homebrews that made Barbarian a figther subclass, Warlocks a cleric subclass, and Sorcerers a wizard subclass.So, in short you can't just &quot;remove the other 8 PHB classes&quot; and still have all the concepts you'd have with the other four alone. Those other concepts/ roles need to be incorporated into the four to make it work.*I should say it wouldn't work NOW for most groups. But considering B/X had four core classes (for humans) and it worked well then, I DOES actually work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flights of Fancy, post: 9669311, member: 7037975"] Just using the core four in the PHB doesn't work, though*. The other classes have to become part of them in some fashion. For example: Fighter, add subclasses for Barbarian, Monk, and Ranger Cleric, add subclasses for Druid, Paladin, Warlock Rogue, add subclasses for Bard, Monk, and Ranger Wizard, add subclasses for Artificer, Bard and Sorcerer Some classes, depending on concept/role, such as spell-less Ranger vs magic Ranger vs. whatever Ranger might fall under one of the four core classes or another. I know we've had homebrews that made Barbarian a figther subclass, Warlocks a cleric subclass, and Sorcerers a wizard subclass. So, in short you can't just "remove the other 8 PHB classes" and still have all the concepts you'd have with the other four alone. Those other concepts/ roles need to be incorporated into the four to make it work. *[I]I should say it wouldn't work NOW for most groups. But considering B/X had four core classes (for humans) and it worked well then, I DOES actually work.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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