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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9676511" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I do think that the Ranger fits the “expert” umbrella more than the “warrior” umbrella, though, in modern gaming.</p><p></p><p>Aragorn was a fierce warrior, and “thief” types weren’t, but that just isn’t a part of the Tolkien DNA that is still prominently in modern gaming, where Warriors are front liners and rogues are <em>just as deadly </em>while sticking to flanking tactics and the like.</p><p></p><p>So if “being deadly with weapons” isn’t a warriors only thing, what sets Aragorn and his processors and successors apart? Utility skill and odd bits of unusual proficiency, and usually magic if the world <em>has</em> magic (whether it’s called that or not).</p><p></p><p>I’ve said this before, but the problem the Ranger has is not identity or niche, it’s that wotc won’t just…let it be its fantasy.</p><p></p><p>The Ranger should have prepared casting or something like it, and the Jack of All Trades feature, and/or the ability to add Wisdom to all proficient checks with Survival, Nature, Investigation, Perception, Athletics, and Stealth (instead of expertise), and should be able to spend a spell slot to give the same group benefit or pass without trace to the group with any one of those skills, or give the group THP, or a bonus to Constitution Saving Throws. If +10 is too crazy for some people, making it a bonus equal to their Wisdom mod or make it scale with Ranger level.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I would take JoAT away from Bards, and give them a heavy knowledge focus and the ability to use storytelling to impart wisdom or fear rather than the heavy focus on “performance art” and inspiration, giving them both bless and bane with extra uses per day. Hell let them cast those two spells without concentration (but only one active at a time) and ditch the BI dice entirely.</p><p></p><p>As much as everyone hated the 3.5 Bard, it was the most Bard the class has been in this century. Which is also true of the Ranger. I hate 3/.5, but it got class identity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9676511, member: 6704184"] I do think that the Ranger fits the “expert” umbrella more than the “warrior” umbrella, though, in modern gaming. Aragorn was a fierce warrior, and “thief” types weren’t, but that just isn’t a part of the Tolkien DNA that is still prominently in modern gaming, where Warriors are front liners and rogues are [I]just as deadly [/I]while sticking to flanking tactics and the like. So if “being deadly with weapons” isn’t a warriors only thing, what sets Aragorn and his processors and successors apart? Utility skill and odd bits of unusual proficiency, and usually magic if the world [I]has[/I] magic (whether it’s called that or not). I’ve said this before, but the problem the Ranger has is not identity or niche, it’s that wotc won’t just…let it be its fantasy. The Ranger should have prepared casting or something like it, and the Jack of All Trades feature, and/or the ability to add Wisdom to all proficient checks with Survival, Nature, Investigation, Perception, Athletics, and Stealth (instead of expertise), and should be able to spend a spell slot to give the same group benefit or pass without trace to the group with any one of those skills, or give the group THP, or a bonus to Constitution Saving Throws. If +10 is too crazy for some people, making it a bonus equal to their Wisdom mod or make it scale with Ranger level. And yes, I would take JoAT away from Bards, and give them a heavy knowledge focus and the ability to use storytelling to impart wisdom or fear rather than the heavy focus on “performance art” and inspiration, giving them both bless and bane with extra uses per day. Hell let them cast those two spells without concentration (but only one active at a time) and ditch the BI dice entirely. As much as everyone hated the 3.5 Bard, it was the most Bard the class has been in this century. Which is also true of the Ranger. I hate 3/.5, but it got class identity. [/QUOTE]
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