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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9683866" data-attributes="member: 63508">Absolutely yes.Many of The Ranger fantasy tropes areCuring WoundsUsing herbs to restore alliesCalming AnimalsTracking foesEnduring the elementsLocating objectsFinding and creating shelterMoving groups stealthilyMoving through difficult terrain and natural obstaclesFighting wild beats raiders and other wilderness creaturesFor most of the Indies existence at least half of those require casting a spell. And half of the remainder is only practical or efficient by casting a spell.The Ranger class is necessary mostly because for most of D&D's existence it does skill system was not effective.Either the skills were too limited or restrictive in scope that you could not use them effectively or efficiently.Or there was no clarity of what the effects the skill roll would actually let you do in affecting the game state.Like I said very often on this forum The ranger is spell list is just a collection of Ranger tropes and spell form because those rules don't exist anywhere else in the books and a player's ability to roleplay those feats of Rangerdom is not guaranteed that most tables.</blockquote>