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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9685020" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>The 4e Ranger was so bad tbh. I never understood why anyone liked it outside of white room CharOp power gamers.</p><p></p><p>They can, or they can be simple and work with the rest of the design of the class.</p><p></p><p>You just described what I described, using a positive tone instead of a negative one.</p><p></p><p>Sure you can. The steel defender with one of the better buff spells cast on it manages it already. If it had the option of pet specific infusions, and/or some “you can cast spells that target self on the steel defender” feature, including things like Absorb Elements, it would be all the way there. Spend an infusion to allow the pet to cast spells on itself using its own actions, and a high level one to let it concentrate on its own spell. You’ll still be a caster with extra attack using your casting stat, good magic items, good spell selection, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I’ve seen folks complain that the only real pet option is a weak subclass that doesn’t do what they want from a pet tamer.</p><p></p><p>Yes you can because the pet can be used in combat once you take the necessary invocation, and it could easily have more invocations to pump it up even more.</p><p></p><p>The Ranger doesn’t need 5 directions. It needs support for a specialization option in addition to and alongside subclass, and all its options would be totally compatible with the base class.</p><p></p><p>Which works just fine with a ranger that can choose to have a pet, or a big buff to skills, or cantrips and extra spells, or a beefy boost to melee capability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9685020, member: 6704184"] The 4e Ranger was so bad tbh. I never understood why anyone liked it outside of white room CharOp power gamers. They can, or they can be simple and work with the rest of the design of the class. You just described what I described, using a positive tone instead of a negative one. Sure you can. The steel defender with one of the better buff spells cast on it manages it already. If it had the option of pet specific infusions, and/or some “you can cast spells that target self on the steel defender” feature, including things like Absorb Elements, it would be all the way there. Spend an infusion to allow the pet to cast spells on itself using its own actions, and a high level one to let it concentrate on its own spell. You’ll still be a caster with extra attack using your casting stat, good magic items, good spell selection, etc. I’ve seen folks complain that the only real pet option is a weak subclass that doesn’t do what they want from a pet tamer. Yes you can because the pet can be used in combat once you take the necessary invocation, and it could easily have more invocations to pump it up even more. The Ranger doesn’t need 5 directions. It needs support for a specialization option in addition to and alongside subclass, and all its options would be totally compatible with the base class. Which works just fine with a ranger that can choose to have a pet, or a big buff to skills, or cantrips and extra spells, or a beefy boost to melee capability. [/QUOTE]
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