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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9694562" data-attributes="member: 6790260">One thing I find genuinely hilarious about this is that FFXIV has precisely the opposite problem.It doesn't have a &quot;Ranger&quot; class. (Or, rather, &quot;job&quot;; Final Fantasy treats &quot;classes&quot; as lower-tier things you usually graduate out of, and &quot;jobs&quot; are the true equivalent of a D&amp;D class). This leaves a number of fans REALLY upset.See, FFXIV ties the job you play to the weapon you wield. This makes for a nice clean thematic expression for each job--but it also means that, because the &quot;Bard&quot; job uses bows, there's...really no room for a &quot;Ranger&quot; class anymore, as bows were also the Ranger thing. Bards being archers has this whole cultural explanation within the world of FFXIV (TL;DR: they're sort of a blend of battlefield pseudo-medic, inspiring presence, and death-from-afar/longbowman-type units), but this now means that, because of the 1:1 correspondence between a specific weapon type and a specific job, if we ever get a &quot;Ranger&quot; it's going to have to use something other than a longbow-type weapon.This leaves many fans frustrated, because in their heads, a &quot;Ranger&quot; cannot be strongly associated with music, performance, or the inspirational/party-buffing elements of the Bard. It needs to be a rugged outdoorsman, a hunter-of-beasts; if it has any association with healing at all, it should only be in a poultices-and-bandages kind of way, not &quot;Music has charms to soothe a savage breast&quot;. Meaning, these people very much believe Ranger IS a &quot;necessary [job]&quot; and have articulated many reasons why it irritates them that they have to settle for something merely adjacent, something that comes bundled with a bunch of mechanics and thematics they don't like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9694562, member: 6790260"] One thing I find genuinely hilarious about this is that FFXIV has precisely the opposite problem. It [I]doesn't have[/I] a "Ranger" class. (Or, rather, "job"; Final Fantasy treats "classes" as lower-tier things you usually graduate out of, and "jobs" are the [I]true[/I] equivalent of a D&D class). This leaves a number of fans REALLY upset. See, FFXIV ties the job you play to the [I]weapon[/I] you wield. This makes for a nice clean thematic expression for each job--but it also means that, because the "Bard" job uses bows, there's...really no room for a "Ranger" class anymore, as bows were also [I]the[/I] Ranger thing. Bards being archers has this whole cultural explanation within the world of FFXIV (TL;DR: they're sort of a blend of battlefield pseudo-medic, inspiring presence, and death-from-afar/longbowman-type units), but this now means that, because of the 1:1 correspondence between a specific weapon type and a specific job, if we ever get a "Ranger" it's going to have to use something other than a longbow-type weapon. This leaves many fans frustrated, because in their heads, a "Ranger" [I]cannot be[/I] strongly associated with music, performance, or the inspirational/party-buffing elements of the Bard. It needs to be a rugged outdoorsman, a hunter-of-beasts; if it has any association with healing at all, it should only be in a poultices-and-bandages kind of way, not "Music has charms to soothe a savage breast". Meaning, these people very much believe Ranger IS a "necessary [job]" and have articulated many reasons why it irritates them that they have to settle for something merely adjacent, something that comes bundled with a bunch of mechanics and thematics they don't like. [/QUOTE]

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