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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9759121" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Not really.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? And why not curate the spell list to include plenty of stuff that doesn’t involve waving hands and chanting, or if needed make it so weapons are arcane focus for them and they ignore verbal components. Robin Hood in D&D is a rogue, but if you insisted on making him a ranger, I’d expect magic. Because D&D Sherwood would be magical. </p><p></p><p>I actually see the reasoning vastly more for Paladins. I’d prefer they not cast spells, or at least only 1/day or with Chanel divinity. And rituals, but first I’d want the rituals in 5e to actually…be worth using. </p><p></p><p>But in 5e, Spellcasting as a subclass choice sucks. Flat out. It would be terrible. </p><p></p><p>I think most people would be fine with both half casters having enough ways to use spell slots as fuel for things that aren’t spells, such that you could just do those things instead, or entirely replace the spells with something else as an option and make that replacement thing still use and be balanced around spell slots, though I know you have previously been vehemently opposed to that solution. </p><p></p><p>But it is genuinely the only viable solution outside playing a different game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9759121, member: 6704184"] Not really. Why? And why not curate the spell list to include plenty of stuff that doesn’t involve waving hands and chanting, or if needed make it so weapons are arcane focus for them and they ignore verbal components. Robin Hood in D&D is a rogue, but if you insisted on making him a ranger, I’d expect magic. Because D&D Sherwood would be magical. I actually see the reasoning vastly more for Paladins. I’d prefer they not cast spells, or at least only 1/day or with Chanel divinity. And rituals, but first I’d want the rituals in 5e to actually…be worth using. But in 5e, Spellcasting as a subclass choice sucks. Flat out. It would be terrible. I think most people would be fine with both half casters having enough ways to use spell slots as fuel for things that aren’t spells, such that you could just do those things instead, or entirely replace the spells with something else as an option and make that replacement thing still use and be balanced around spell slots, though I know you have previously been vehemently opposed to that solution. But it is genuinely the only viable solution outside playing a different game. [/QUOTE]
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