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Convince me to keep reading Princes of the Apocalypse (*significant* spoilers. Also my players keep out)
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<blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 6581328" data-attributes="member: 98008"><p>On the Sword Coast I always felt it was a rather good environment for the limited government to not care enough about things to act on the PCs calling for help. I am rather ignorant about the official lore on the place admittedly, but the area as I imagine it works well.</p><p></p><p>- Complete strangers turning up in Waterdeep and demanding a significant military investment is going to be dismissed. How do they even meet a Lord of Waterdeep? Nobody knows who they are. How do they go to the front of the queue to talk to the Open Lord? How do they convince them of the imminence of the problem. Even if they do, it waits until the next Lords Council and it could get rejected for any reason without the party ever knowing why, or by who.</p><p></p><p>- Don't most places use mercenaries to protect the city states? It is not in their brief to protect the rest of the countryside. There is no standing army to ride out and save the day. Do the PCs have the money to hire the mercs? Do the mercs even have the lords permission to leave their posts and go and do some moonlighting?</p><p></p><p> - It is not a kingdom, nobody claims this land. Outside of the immediate farmland around each city state, nobody cares. It is not like running to the local king and asking for help. It is like running out of the wilds to the neighboring kingdoms king (or merchant guild) and asking for help. I get the impression that the zone-of-control of each city is very limited.</p><p></p><p>- Is there a standing army, like you would expect in most settings? I get the impression that there just are not that many troops, with a rather limited zone of control for each city, mercenaries are used for work further afield.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, the OPs concerns are not well addressed. There is a very MMO-style approach to monster placement going on here and there is not much explicitly stopping the PCs for running for help. From what I recall the adventure does not supply an immediate sense of imminent doom, so the fact that it might take a few weeks is not of immediate concern.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unwise, post: 6581328, member: 98008"] On the Sword Coast I always felt it was a rather good environment for the limited government to not care enough about things to act on the PCs calling for help. I am rather ignorant about the official lore on the place admittedly, but the area as I imagine it works well. - Complete strangers turning up in Waterdeep and demanding a significant military investment is going to be dismissed. How do they even meet a Lord of Waterdeep? Nobody knows who they are. How do they go to the front of the queue to talk to the Open Lord? How do they convince them of the imminence of the problem. Even if they do, it waits until the next Lords Council and it could get rejected for any reason without the party ever knowing why, or by who. - Don't most places use mercenaries to protect the city states? It is not in their brief to protect the rest of the countryside. There is no standing army to ride out and save the day. Do the PCs have the money to hire the mercs? Do the mercs even have the lords permission to leave their posts and go and do some moonlighting? - It is not a kingdom, nobody claims this land. Outside of the immediate farmland around each city state, nobody cares. It is not like running to the local king and asking for help. It is like running out of the wilds to the neighboring kingdoms king (or merchant guild) and asking for help. I get the impression that the zone-of-control of each city is very limited. - Is there a standing army, like you would expect in most settings? I get the impression that there just are not that many troops, with a rather limited zone of control for each city, mercenaries are used for work further afield. Don't get me wrong, the OPs concerns are not well addressed. There is a very MMO-style approach to monster placement going on here and there is not much explicitly stopping the PCs for running for help. From what I recall the adventure does not supply an immediate sense of imminent doom, so the fact that it might take a few weeks is not of immediate concern. [/QUOTE]
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