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Message: <blockquote data-quote="plancktum" data-source="post: 6562174" data-attributes="member: 6698531">Normally, such discussions are not my favorite time-spending hobby, but actually I think 5e is the best system I've ever played, so I decided to give it a try and help you.First of all: 5e books are more expensive than PF Books, BUT way more complete. Of course, you could play Pathfinder with the core books, but isn't some part of the Pathfinder-fun to have books for everything?So if you compare the average pathfinder-book-buying to the average 5e-book-buying, I think you will spend at least equal (probably more) money on pathfinder products.So, even if the single products are more expensive, the overall costs can be lower. Of course this hardly depends on how much you invest into Pathfinder books. If you just buy the core books and are happy, then you will spend less money on PF.And that is the point why I like 5e! It's complete! I do not miss anything. In comparison to Shadowrun, where I miss the Magic, Hacking, ... and so on books before I would consider the game complete.Of course I would like more 5e books, but for me (in contrast to PF) they are completely optional. Second: Why do I love the books? There full of ideas not rules! And that is fantastic <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> You do not spend hours reading detailed rules for everything. You spend hours thinking about good plots (as a GM) or cool character concepts (as a Player).Third: It's a very elegant system. If I want to I could use all Fantasy-Setting Adventures, regardless if they are written for 1e,2e,3e,PF,that other fantasy system over there and EASILY use them in my 5e Campaign.Still, I feel to have enough mechanics which guide me as a GM or Player. 13th Age for example is a little bit too loose in the out-of-combat rules in my opinion (but still is a great system).Fourth: Ask yourself for what stuff you've spended money which wasn't worth it. If you like books and you like D&D, then you will like 5e and you won't regret buying the books in my opinion.I've buyed the books without looking into too much detail of the basic rules. I've buyed directly HotDQ and the PHB and now I'm GMing two D&D5 groups. All of my players love this system.</blockquote>

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