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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 6564001" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>Could I suggest that when one buys a rule set, one isn't solely or even most importantly buying a stack of paper but rather buying craftsmanship in terms of well-constructed rules? I was frankly surprised at the level of quality the 5e rules are at. If I can draw an analogy, you seem to be asking why this kilo of gold costs more than that kilo of silver? It costs more, because it is a finer material.</p><p></p><p>I don't mean to knock Pathfinder. It jumped in to fill the void left by 4e and to an extent kept D&D alive. It fixed some things from 3.5 and added some options into the core that had been scattered across splatbooks. So it was a small step forward in quality. 5e is a leap forward. One example is the 5e fix to Vancian magic. The system has moved the spells per day mechanics to where they should have been in the first place. Or at least that's how it feels to me. The changes are extremely simple and 'obvious', but only in that way that very refined design can make something seem so natural that it looks obvious in hindsight. Or turning to the MM the write-ups and stat-blocks are wonderfully honed. I'm not a massive fan of fluff, but the 5e MM fluff is written and laid out in a way that is quick to parse and serves as points of inspiration for the game. There are a load of things to enjoy about the new MM.</p><p></p><p>So I would say that the value per dollar is higher in the 5e than most comparable products. You get fewer words for your money, but those words are better written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 6564001, member: 71699"] Could I suggest that when one buys a rule set, one isn't solely or even most importantly buying a stack of paper but rather buying craftsmanship in terms of well-constructed rules? I was frankly surprised at the level of quality the 5e rules are at. If I can draw an analogy, you seem to be asking why this kilo of gold costs more than that kilo of silver? It costs more, because it is a finer material. I don't mean to knock Pathfinder. It jumped in to fill the void left by 4e and to an extent kept D&D alive. It fixed some things from 3.5 and added some options into the core that had been scattered across splatbooks. So it was a small step forward in quality. 5e is a leap forward. One example is the 5e fix to Vancian magic. The system has moved the spells per day mechanics to where they should have been in the first place. Or at least that's how it feels to me. The changes are extremely simple and 'obvious', but only in that way that very refined design can make something seem so natural that it looks obvious in hindsight. Or turning to the MM the write-ups and stat-blocks are wonderfully honed. I'm not a massive fan of fluff, but the 5e MM fluff is written and laid out in a way that is quick to parse and serves as points of inspiration for the game. There are a load of things to enjoy about the new MM. So I would say that the value per dollar is higher in the 5e than most comparable products. You get fewer words for your money, but those words are better written. [/QUOTE]
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