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<blockquote data-quote="SKyOdin" data-source="post: 5960127" data-attributes="member: 57939">This is very true.As a big fan of 4E, I don't think the grid is an important part of what I like about 4E at all. I actually agree with some of the critics that some of the complex tactical movement can be a little annoying to deal with sometimes. But that isn't the core part of 4E. What makes 4E good is the simplicity of the rules language, the elegance of power design, the importance of class/character balance, and the wide array of options the game gives characters of every class.This is why I always found the idea of a tactical module being put forward as some weird attempt to appeal to 4E fans so strange and silly. Tactics isn't why I like 4E. I would actually really like to see a version of D&amp;D that eschews grids and measuring spell ranges in feet entirely, perhaps in favor of a well-designed arena system like what Old School Hack uses.Thats the thing, I believe that a D&amp;D Next's goals could best be accomplished by taking a core based on 4E, then stripping off all of 4E's tactical elements, powers, and so forth, and then using that skeletal framework to make a simple, 1E/Basic styled game. Creating a convoluted, sub-system heavy framework then crudely slapping on a tactical rules module doesn't appeal to me at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SKyOdin, post: 5960127, member: 57939"] This is very true. As a big fan of 4E, I don't think the grid is an important part of what I like about 4E at all. I actually agree with some of the critics that some of the complex tactical movement can be a little annoying to deal with sometimes. But that isn't the core part of 4E. What makes 4E good is the simplicity of the rules language, the elegance of power design, the importance of class/character balance, and the wide array of options the game gives characters of every class. This is why I always found the idea of a tactical module being put forward as some weird attempt to appeal to 4E fans so strange and silly. Tactics isn't why I like 4E. I would actually really like to see a version of D&D that eschews grids and measuring spell ranges in feet entirely, perhaps in favor of a well-designed arena system like what Old School Hack uses. Thats the thing, I believe that a D&D Next's goals could best be accomplished by taking a core based on 4E, then stripping off all of 4E's tactical elements, powers, and so forth, and then using that skeletal framework to make a simple, 1E/Basic styled game. Creating a convoluted, sub-system heavy framework then crudely slapping on a tactical rules module doesn't appeal to me at all. [/QUOTE]

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