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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 5962323" data-attributes="member: 5038">For the gamers that I, personally, know, 3e was considered closer.  Much of this had to do with house rules that the various groups used and resembled 3e changes. Common house rules included1. Humans multiclassing2. Demi-human class and racial limits were ignored3. Clerics and Wizards worked like spontaneous casters or the spell point system in PO: Spells and Magic4. ascending AC was a common house rule5. Ditching the Great Wheel cosmology (Edit:This was, actually, an example of something we did and wanted in 3e,  but occurred in 4e and I want kept in 5e. I was being hurried to leave the house and put it here by mistake).Three saves, monster ability scores, breaking down monster AC were things we wanted for a long time. It seemed logical, something we wanted to see, and grasped quickly. 4e seemed much different to us1. The power system- especially for martial characters2. Saving throws as duration3. Removing ability penalties (especially, strength penalties for halflings and other races)4. Overnight healing5. a lot of the design philosophy in generalEdit: Despite my preference for 3e, there are several things that I would want to see from 4e.  My preference for 5e would be based more in 3e, but there are many concepts I would bring in from 4e along with 2e approach to setting and campaign and 2e special priests.</blockquote>