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<blockquote data-quote="Dragoslav" data-source="post: 5963784" data-attributes="member: 6690267">Personally, I've always found it odd that social interaction often has so little to do with character stats, unlike combat. I can't roleplay someone who's a masterful duelist that wields one fullblade in each hand if my character's strength and dex are both an 8 and the rules prevent me from wielding a fullblade in one hand. But you can often ignore your character's 8 charisma and commoner background when parlaying with a king.Having the dice adjudicate the outcome of social interaction to a greater extent (but not completely) would probably upset a lot of people who are used to having their character's stats only have a mechanical importance in combat, but I have no problem with the following scenario:Player: (roleplaying) &quot;... and that, your excellency, is why you should increase our reward.&quot;DM: &quot;Okay, roll a diplomacy check.&quot;Player: &quot;What?! Didn't you listen to that masterful rhetoric and flawless logic I just did?&quot;DM: &quot;It was great. But your character has 8 charisma and 8 intelligence. I don't let your character do a triple-jump in the air and stab an ogre in the eye just because you say so, so roll the blasted dice already.&quot;Player: &quot;Fine. *rolls* Sweet, a 20! With my skill modifier, that's... a 19.&quot;DM: &quot;Yeah, the king isn't buying it.&quot;I wouldn't mind seeing more detailed rules for social interaction (like 4e skill challenges) in a module. I won't get into specifics or reference other games' systems because we already had a detailed thread about the idea recently. Just my 2c.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dragoslav, post: 5963784, member: 6690267"] Personally, I've always found it odd that social interaction often has so little to do with character stats, unlike combat. I can't roleplay someone who's a masterful duelist that wields one fullblade in each hand if my character's strength and dex are both an 8 and the rules prevent me from wielding a fullblade in one hand. But you can often ignore your character's 8 charisma and commoner background when parlaying with a king. Having the dice adjudicate the outcome of social interaction to a greater extent (but not completely) would probably upset a lot of people who are used to having their character's stats only have a mechanical importance in combat, but I have no problem with the following scenario: Player: (roleplaying) "... and that, your excellency, is why you should increase our reward." DM: "Okay, roll a diplomacy check." Player: "What?! Didn't you listen to that masterful rhetoric and flawless logic I just did?" DM: "It was great. But your character has 8 charisma and 8 intelligence. I don't let your character do a triple-jump in the air and stab an ogre in the eye just because you say so, so roll the blasted dice already." Player: "Fine. *rolls* Sweet, a 20! With my skill modifier, that's... a 19." DM: "Yeah, the king isn't buying it." I wouldn't mind seeing more detailed rules for social interaction (like 4e skill challenges) in a module. I won't get into specifics or reference other games' systems because we already had a detailed thread about the idea recently. Just my 2c. [/QUOTE]

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