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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blackbrrd" data-source="post: 5982723" data-attributes="member: 63962">I don't disagree with you here, the spell descriptions in 4e are easier to follow than those in 3.x and earlier. My point was that 4e powers adds much more states/conditions than spells from previous editions. There is a lot more book-keeping, which increases the complexity a lot.On the other hand, I am (as a DM) way faster at rolling saving throws than my players are at rolling attacks, it takes maybe 20% of the time? Part of the reason being that I calculate the target number and just say who got affected, instead of the player calculating every roll and telling me them one by one and who the targets where. The 4e fireball is waaaay slower than the 3e fireball in my game.Personally, I play with a very small set of DMs and haven't had any problems with DM ruling on spells. They are most often in the minority and I know which might be problematic. Any game I play in does have house rules anyway, so no difference there between 3.x and 4e.</blockquote>