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<blockquote data-quote="slobo777" data-source="post: 5986561" data-attributes="member: 6694877"><p>. . . nor in fact that the fighter that picks up a sword from a monster/NPC that could hit with it for 4d6 would do so.</p><p></p><p>In short 4E damage for monsters is almost entirely unrelated to their equipment. Players however, get to "build" how their PC's damage is done using complex rules, because it is <em>fun</em> to build and customise a character. And that of course includes their equipment.</p><p></p><p>This is a core part of 4E, and a major split from 3.5E in which NPCs are built up using essentially the same system as the PCs.</p><p></p><p>It can also be a source of frustration for people starting or dipping into 4E to find that there <em>isn't</em> any underlying PC-style build for NPCs and their equipment, but that the logic is simply based around target numbers for "suitable challenge at this level".</p><p></p><p>I would have ruled "It's just a regular Arcane staff implement, worth around 20gp. That hobgoblin made a pact with a demon to get that spell!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slobo777, post: 5986561, member: 6694877"] . . . nor in fact that the fighter that picks up a sword from a monster/NPC that could hit with it for 4d6 would do so. In short 4E damage for monsters is almost entirely unrelated to their equipment. Players however, get to "build" how their PC's damage is done using complex rules, because it is [I]fun[/I] to build and customise a character. And that of course includes their equipment. This is a core part of 4E, and a major split from 3.5E in which NPCs are built up using essentially the same system as the PCs. It can also be a source of frustration for people starting or dipping into 4E to find that there [I]isn't[/I] any underlying PC-style build for NPCs and their equipment, but that the logic is simply based around target numbers for "suitable challenge at this level". I would have ruled "It's just a regular Arcane staff implement, worth around 20gp. That hobgoblin made a pact with a demon to get that spell!" [/QUOTE]
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