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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5120585" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>I'd go for the Florida relay for the L220, but that's me.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, you will greatly regret using the portable cage system noted above. There is, however, more than one way to skin that cat.</p><p></p><p>The Stolmen idea is a superior one, provided the screws/spring holds. If it does not, there is another, similar approach:</p><p></p><p>Look in whatever passes for the equivalent of a Home Depot in Denmark. What you are looking for is a portable beam/ceiling support. They come in varying lengths and are used in renovations. The one you want should be about 8' long or thereabouts. Most of the device is painted yellow and made of steel. It unscrews to collpase can be screwed to lengthen the overall support, too. If you recall spring loaded tension mounted cabinets for bathrooms (a very '70s item), it works in the same manner, but it far more sturdy as it uses tension created by a large screw and not a simple spring.</p><p></p><p>(If it is too short for your 8' 6" ceiling, put a block of wood, cinder block or some other support on the floor to help bridge that 6" gap.)</p><p></p><p>In use, this vertical support is screwed out, lengthening the overall bar and screwing it into place, vertically between ceiling and floor. When done, you have a strong vertical support wherever you need it, held firmly in place with northing more than pressure. To this, you add a horizontal bar of arbitrary length (7 feet, say) by simply drilling a hole with a <em>slightly</em> larger diameter than that of the extendable portion on the vertical support. Slip the horizontal bar over the part of the threaded steel screw before the vertical support is screwed into place. (the rest of the verticla support bar is significantly larger in diameter, so this part acts as a rest for your horizontal bar, preventing slippage.) </p><p></p><p>In the result, you now have a horizontal arm of whatever length you need which can be easily maneuvered by swinging it over your table, while the vertical support is comfortably out of the way of players and DM both. You then attach your projector to the horizontal arm in whatever way seems best to you.</p><p></p><p>The entire thiing can be taken down in moments and transported to where you need it. There is no drilling required in your ceiling. Most importantly, there is nothing on the table which obstructs your players view of the projected map.</p><p></p><p>The projection cage in the link above is a really impractical idea imo as it discounts the comfort of the players. It's just far too awkward to use at the table -- and too expensive to boot. People sits down and need to look at each other and interact feely with the map, not have support bars in their way as they are trying to play a RPG. The vertical support bar and the horizontal arm described above is entirely out of everyone's way and the horizontal arm itself is about 3" lower than the ceiling. It's not something that anybody is going to notice or have to look around as they play your game.</p><p></p><p>You could create an arm for holging the projector over your table using a "C" clamp to hold the arm to the table as well. Very large clamps are available for use in wrodlworking projects to hold wood together as it is glued, etc. While it would take up some room at the table, at least it would not be something people have to look through as they are gazing at one another over table -- nor would they have to reach around it to interact with your map.</p><p></p><p>I am sure you are well able to consider other options to suspend your projector as well which are more convenient and user friendly than the cage in the link above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 5120585, member: 20741"] I'd go for the Florida relay for the L220, but that's me. In my opinion, you will greatly regret using the portable cage system noted above. There is, however, more than one way to skin that cat. The Stolmen idea is a superior one, provided the screws/spring holds. If it does not, there is another, similar approach: Look in whatever passes for the equivalent of a Home Depot in Denmark. What you are looking for is a portable beam/ceiling support. They come in varying lengths and are used in renovations. The one you want should be about 8' long or thereabouts. Most of the device is painted yellow and made of steel. It unscrews to collpase can be screwed to lengthen the overall support, too. If you recall spring loaded tension mounted cabinets for bathrooms (a very '70s item), it works in the same manner, but it far more sturdy as it uses tension created by a large screw and not a simple spring. (If it is too short for your 8' 6" ceiling, put a block of wood, cinder block or some other support on the floor to help bridge that 6" gap.) In use, this vertical support is screwed out, lengthening the overall bar and screwing it into place, vertically between ceiling and floor. When done, you have a strong vertical support wherever you need it, held firmly in place with northing more than pressure. To this, you add a horizontal bar of arbitrary length (7 feet, say) by simply drilling a hole with a [I]slightly[/I] larger diameter than that of the extendable portion on the vertical support. Slip the horizontal bar over the part of the threaded steel screw before the vertical support is screwed into place. (the rest of the verticla support bar is significantly larger in diameter, so this part acts as a rest for your horizontal bar, preventing slippage.) In the result, you now have a horizontal arm of whatever length you need which can be easily maneuvered by swinging it over your table, while the vertical support is comfortably out of the way of players and DM both. You then attach your projector to the horizontal arm in whatever way seems best to you. The entire thiing can be taken down in moments and transported to where you need it. There is no drilling required in your ceiling. Most importantly, there is nothing on the table which obstructs your players view of the projected map. The projection cage in the link above is a really impractical idea imo as it discounts the comfort of the players. It's just far too awkward to use at the table -- and too expensive to boot. People sits down and need to look at each other and interact feely with the map, not have support bars in their way as they are trying to play a RPG. The vertical support bar and the horizontal arm described above is entirely out of everyone's way and the horizontal arm itself is about 3" lower than the ceiling. It's not something that anybody is going to notice or have to look around as they play your game. You could create an arm for holging the projector over your table using a "C" clamp to hold the arm to the table as well. Very large clamps are available for use in wrodlworking projects to hold wood together as it is glued, etc. While it would take up some room at the table, at least it would not be something people have to look through as they are gazing at one another over table -- nor would they have to reach around it to interact with your map. I am sure you are well able to consider other options to suspend your projector as well which are more convenient and user friendly than the cage in the link above. [/QUOTE]
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