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<blockquote data-quote="Sylrae" data-source="post: 4350615" data-attributes="member: 48520">OK.Druid, and Cleric, and Wizard.The druid is a wizard with a much bigger selection of spells, full armor casting, armor proficiencies, weapon proficiencies, a combat animal companion, and wildshape, they don't rely on a spellbook, have a better HD, better saves, better bab, and better skillpoints. They lose the bonus feats. explain how that is balanced against the wizard please? also, how would you recommend altering the class to fix it?now the cleric: full armor casting,better bab, better saves, bigger hd than the druid, better proficiencies, combat effective class features depending on domain, no spellbook, same skillpoints, and once again, they just lose the bonus feats.explain how that is balanced against the wizard please? also, how would you recommend altering the class to fix it?The reason im saying against the wizard, is that people complain about the wizard vs the fighter, where the fighter has linear progression, and the wizard has exponential. these also have exponential via spell power, so can you guys explain how this is supposed to work? or how to rework it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sylrae, post: 4350615, member: 48520"] OK. Druid, and Cleric, and Wizard. The druid is a wizard with a much bigger selection of spells, full armor casting, armor proficiencies, weapon proficiencies, a combat animal companion, and wildshape, they don't rely on a spellbook, have a better HD, better saves, better bab, and better skillpoints. They lose the bonus feats. explain how that is balanced against the wizard please? also, how would you recommend altering the class to fix it? now the cleric: full armor casting,better bab, better saves, bigger hd than the druid, better proficiencies, combat effective class features depending on domain, no spellbook, same skillpoints, and once again, they just lose the bonus feats.explain how that is balanced against the wizard please? also, how would you recommend altering the class to fix it? The reason im saying against the wizard, is that people complain about the wizard vs the fighter, where the fighter has linear progression, and the wizard has exponential. these also have exponential via spell power, so can you guys explain how this is supposed to work? or how to rework it? [/QUOTE]

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