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<blockquote data-quote="Sylrae" data-source="post: 4359464" data-attributes="member: 48520">Now that might be the best Idea yet. Make the clerics much more specialized. And when you cay all of the god's domains be available, you don't mean all the domains in total, you just mean all the domains of their god, correct?*Grabs PHB* So if I worship Corellon Larethian, then I get spells from the Chaos, Good, Protection, and War domains, yes? and then I'd get one 'general' spell per level. I'd probably feel it necessary to make sure all the general spells are in some domain or another, but that wouldn't be too hard.Then you drop the ability to autoheal, and replace it with a domain spell they can autocast, either by deity or by domain. maybe since they would be losing general usefulness, they could have a couple spells they could drop slots to cast.I'm thinking maybe undead turning should go specialized as well, and make all the clerics get something different. In some cases it would be a domain's granted power, and maybe you would just get 3 domain powers. instead of increased caster levels, good and evil domains would give turn/rebuke undead.I think that would make all my issues with them go away, because they would lose the huge versatility even though they would still have the same number of spells. They'd be forced to specialize. then after playtesting it I could see whether the 'pray as you go' or 'progress as a bard' changes would still be necessary. they'd be better in their specialized areas, but they wouldn't be good at everything, they would have to pick.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sylrae, post: 4359464, member: 48520"] Now that might be the best Idea yet. Make the clerics much more specialized. And when you cay all of the god's domains be available, you don't mean all the domains in total, you just mean all the domains of their god, correct? *Grabs PHB* So if I worship Corellon Larethian, then I get spells from the Chaos, Good, Protection, and War domains, yes? and then I'd get one 'general' spell per level. I'd probably feel it necessary to make sure all the general spells are in some domain or another, but that wouldn't be too hard. Then you drop the ability to autoheal, and replace it with a domain spell they can autocast, either by deity or by domain. maybe since they would be losing general usefulness, they could have a couple spells they could drop slots to cast. I'm thinking maybe undead turning should go specialized as well, and make all the clerics get something different. In some cases it would be a domain's granted power, and maybe you would just get 3 domain powers. instead of increased caster levels, good and evil domains would give turn/rebuke undead. I think that would make all my issues with them go away, because they would lose the huge versatility even though they would still have the same number of spells. They'd be forced to specialize. then after playtesting it I could see whether the 'pray as you go' or 'progress as a bard' changes would still be necessary. they'd be better in their specialized areas, but they wouldn't be good at everything, they would have to pick. [/QUOTE]

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