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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shivamuffin" data-source="post: 762645" data-attributes="member: 936">They get spells because of their bond with nature....I retract Idiotic and Moronic with....( Drumroll )IMO...LameHopefully this will stifle a ranger war...It is just an opinion, and the purpose was not to blah blah blah about rangers, but to have a rational discussion as to why it is what it is and why it never seems to get fixed.A ranger is a warrior with wilderness lore skills...that's all they are or were in classic fantasy until the TSR novels came out...Once again, my personal opinions aside...MY QUESTIONS: Is there a decent alternative to the ranger? ( This was Kind of answered, and the answer seems to be...IT DEPENDS.... )Can a campaign survive without them?Can we just take away the animal crap and spellcasting and keep the rest? What would be a good replacement for what was taken away?Another thing: If this topic is annoying and will cause you to get personal,  just because you've seen it brought up a zillion times...DON'T RESPOND...I don't want to be insulted just over an opinion...Uless you are the original creator of the Ranger class....Then let's go biotch!!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Otherwise be nice, I'm not attacking you, just the class.</blockquote>